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New season Ballpark Numbers

PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2021 2:06 pm
by Ninersphan
Ballpark effect chart for 2020 Season Major Leagues

TEAM BALLPARK SINGLES BALLPARK HOMERUN
Arizona
L Single* 1-15 Lineout(2b) 16-20 L Homerun 1-6 Flyball(rf) B 7-20
R Single* 1-7 Lineout(ss) 8-20 R Homerun 1-6 Flyball(lf) B 7-20

Atlanta
L Single* 1-7 Lineout(2b) 8-20 L Homerun 1-7 Flyball(rf) B 8-20
R Single* 1-13 Lineout(ss) 14-20 R Homerun 1-7 Flyball(lf) B 8-20

Baltimore
L Single* 1-6 Lineout(2b) 7-20 L Homerun 1-13 Flyball(rf) B 14-20
R Single* 1-6 Lineout(ss) 7-20 R Homerun 1-16 Flyball(lf) B 17-20

Boston
L Single* 1-13 Lineout(2b) 14-20 L Homerun 1-5 Flyball(rf) B 6-20
R Single* 1-13 Lineout(ss) 14-20 R Homerun 1-8 Flyball(lf) B 9-20

Chicago (AL)
L Single* 1-2 Lineout(2b) 3-20 L Homerun 1-16 Flyball(rf) B 17-20
R Single* 1-2 Lineout(ss) 3-20 R Homerun 1-13 Flyball(lf) B 14-20

Chicago (NL)
L Single* 1-9 Lineout(2b) 10-20 L Homerun 1-5 Flyball(rf) B 6-20
R Single* 1-9 Lineout(ss) 10-20 R Homerun 1-8 Flyball(lf) B 9-20

Cincinnati
L Single* 1-5 Lineout(2b) 6-20 L Homerun 1-17 Flyball(rf) B 18-20
R Single* 1-5 Lineout(ss) 6-20 R Homerun 1-17 Flyball(lf) B 18-20

Cleveland
L Single* 1-9 Lineout(2b) 10-20 L Homerun 1-13 Flyball(rf) B 14-20
R Single* 1-9 Lineout(ss) 10-20 R Homerun 1-10 Flyball(lf) B 11-20

Colorado
L Single* 1-19 Lineout(2b) 20 L Homerun 1-14 Flyball(rf) B 15-20
R Single* 1-19 Lineout(ss) 20 R Homerun 1-14 Flyball(lf) B 15-20

Detroit
L Single* 1-1 Lineout(2b) 2-20 L Homerun 1-6 Flyball(rf) B 7-20
R Single* 1-15 Lineout(ss) 16-20 R Homerun 1-9 Flyball(lf) B 10-20

Houston
L Single* 1-3 Lineout(2b) 4-20 L Homerun 1-12 Flyball(rf) B 13-20
R Single* 1-3 Lineout(ss) 4-20 R Homerun 1-12 Flyball(lf) B 13-20

Kansas City
L Single* 1-18 Lineout(2b) 19-20 L Homerun 1-5 Flyball(rf) B 6-20
R Single* 1-15 Lineout(ss) 16-20 R Homerun 1-5 Flyball(lf) B 6-20

Los Angeles(AL)
L Single* 1-3 Lineout(2b) 4-20 L Homerun 1-19 Flyball(rf) B 20
R Single* 1-3 Lineout(ss) 4-20 R Homerun 1-10 Flyball(lf) B 11-20

Los Angeles(NL)
L Single* 1-5 Lineout(2b) 6-20 L Homerun 1-10 Flyball(rf) B 11-20
R Single* 1-5 Lineout(ss) 6-20 R Homerun 1-13 Flyball(lf) B 14-20

Miami
L Single* 1-1 Lineout(2b) 2-20 L Homerun 1-2 Flyball(rf) B 3-20
R Single* 1-11 Lineout(ss) 12-20 R Homerun 1-2 Flyball(lf) B 3-20

Milwaukee
L Single* 1-2 Lineout(2b) 3-20 L Homerun 1-11 Flyball(rf) B 12-20
R Single* 1-2 Lineout(ss) 3-20 R Homerun 1-11 Flyball(lf) B 12-20

Minnesota
L Single* 1-12 Lineout(2b) 13-20 L Homerun 1-7 Flyball(rf) B 8-20
R Single* 1-9 Lineout(ss) 10-20 R Homerun 1-7 Flyball(lf) B 8-20

New York (AL)
L Single* 1-8 Lineout(2b) 9-20 L Homerun 1-12 Flyball(rf) B 13-20
R Single* 1-8 Lineout(ss) 9-20 R Homerun 1-12 Flyball(lf) B 13-20

New York (NL)
L Single* 1-1 Lineout(2b) 2-20 L Homerun 1-7 Flyball(rf) B 8-20
R Single* 1-1 Lineout(ss) 2-20 R Homerun 1-10 Flyball(lf) B 11-20

Oakland
L Single* 1-1 Lineout(2b) 2-20 L Homerun 1-4 Flyball(rf) B 5-20
R Single* 1-7 Lineout(ss) 8-20 R Homerun 1-4 Flyball(lf) B 5-20

Philadelphia
L Single* 1-10 Lineout(2b) 11-20 L Homerun 1-14 Flyball(rf) B 15-20
R Single* 1-5 Lineout(ss) 6-20 R Homerun 1-14 Flyball(lf) B 15-20

Pittsburgh
L Single* 1-12 Lineout(2b) 13-20 L Homerun 1-7 Flyball(rf) B 8-20
R Single* 1-6 Lineout(ss) 7-20 R Homerun 1-4 Flyball(lf) B 5-20

San Diego
L Single* 1-2 Lineout(2b) 3-20 L Homerun 1-6 Flyball(rf) B 7-20
R Single* 1-2 Lineout(ss) 3-20 R Homerun 1-6 Flyball(lf) B 7-20

San Francisco
L Single* 1-13 Lineout(2b) 14-20 L Homerun 1-13 Flyball(rf) B 14-20
R Single* 1-10 Lineout(ss) 11-20 R Homerun 1-7 Flyball(lf) B 8-20

Seattle
L Single* 1-1 Lineout(2b) 2-20 L Homerun 1-7 Flyball(rf) B 8-20
R Single* 1-1 Lineout(ss) 2-20 R Homerun 1-10 Flyball(lf) B 11-20

St. Louis
L Single* 1-8 Lineout(2b) 9-20 L Homerun 1-5 Flyball(rf) B 6-20
R Single* 1-8 Lineout(ss) 9-20 R Homerun 1-5 Flyball(lf) B 6-20

Tampa Bay
L Single* 1-3 Lineout(2b) 4-20 L Homerun 1-9 Flyball(rf) B 10-20
R Single* 1-3 Lineout(ss) 4-20 R Homerun 1-6 Flyball(lf) B 7-20

Texas
L Single* 1-18 Lineout(2b) 19-20 L Homerun 1-6 Flyball(rf) B 7-20
R Single* 1-9 Lineout(ss) 10-20 R Homerun 1-6 Flyball(lf) B 7-20

Toronto
L Single* 1-19 Lineout(2b) 20 L Homerun 1-5 Flyball(rf) B 6-20
R Single* 1-19 Lineout(ss) 20 R Homerun 1-5 Flyball(lf) B 6-20

Washington
L Single* 1-13 Lineout(2b) 14-20 L Homerun 1-12 Flyball(rf) B 13-20
R Single* 1-10 Lineout(ss) 11-20 R Homerun 1-12 Flyball(lf) B 13-20

Re: New season Ballpark Numbers

PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2021 2:07 pm
by Ninersphan
Wind blowing in at Wrigley, and out in San Fran. I can see Angels stadium being popular this season.

Re: New season Ballpark Numbers

PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2021 5:23 pm
by joethejet
Ninersphan wrote:Wind blowing in at Wrigley, and out in San Fran. I can see Angels stadium being popular this season.


Yeah, I gotta say however that something is wrong with SOM's calculations to say that Oracle is better for LHB HRs than RHB. Probably has something to do with the fact that Yaz and Belt play for the Giants ;)

Re: New season Ballpark Numbers

PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2021 12:20 am
by Valen
I have long thought Strat ballpark ratings were flawed. Potent lineups lead to high ballpark numbers and a weak lineup or a lot of hitters with off years leads to low ballpark numbers. To me unless there is a physical change to a ballpark the numbers year to year should not change much.

Re: New season Ballpark Numbers

PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2021 5:48 pm
by Ninersphan
Valen wrote:I have long thought Strat ballpark ratings were flawed. Potent lineups lead to high ballpark numbers and a weak lineup or a lot of hitters with off years leads to low ballpark numbers. To me unless there is a physical change to a ballpark the numbers year to year should not change much.



My understanding, taken from a long ago article published in Strat Fan magazine, was that the numbers were based on a 3 year average. But that could have changed.

Re: New season Ballpark Numbers

PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2021 1:56 pm
by joethejet
Ninersphan wrote:
Valen wrote:I have long thought Strat ballpark ratings were flawed. Potent lineups lead to high ballpark numbers and a weak lineup or a lot of hitters with off years leads to low ballpark numbers. To me unless there is a physical change to a ballpark the numbers year to year should not change much.



My understanding, taken from a long ago article published in Strat Fan magazine, was that the numbers were based on a 3 year average. But that could have changed.



Yeah, they say that, but explain what happened to Oracle this year then? It's completely flawed.

Re: New season Ballpark Numbers

PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2021 9:22 pm
by Runnin Rebel
Valen wrote:I have long thought Strat ballpark ratings were flawed. Potent lineups lead to high ballpark numbers and a weak lineup or a lot of hitters with off years leads to low ballpark numbers. To me unless there is a physical change to a ballpark the numbers year to year should not change much.


I concur..The ballparks ratings reflect the changes in the home team lineup more than changes in the ballpark itself. The Cubs didn't have as many home run hitters this year, and their number reflect it. San Fran added power to its batting order thus the uptick in numbers.

Re: New season Ballpark Numbers

PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 10:37 am
by Rant
Runnin Rebel wrote:
Valen wrote:I have long thought Strat ballpark ratings were flawed. Potent lineups lead to high ballpark numbers and a weak lineup or a lot of hitters with off years leads to low ballpark numbers. To me unless there is a physical change to a ballpark the numbers year to year should not change much.


I concur..The ballparks ratings reflect the changes in the home team lineup more than changes in the ballpark itself. The Cubs didn't have as many home run hitters this year, and their number reflect it. San Fran added power to its batting order thus the uptick in numbers.


Perhaps true, but SF actually changed their park dimensions last year (much to my chagrin in at least one keeper league).

Re: New season Ballpark Numbers

PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 8:42 am
by Loess Hills
So are the Toronto numbers actually Buffalo numbers for 2020?

New season Ballpark Numbers

PostPosted: Sun Feb 14, 2021 8:06 pm
by pjcoff
They used to be primarily built off of Bill James's Ball Park Effects and it was smoothed out by using 3 year average. There was an error in the calculation several years ago so they could have gone to other factors. Definitely thing the smaller sample from 2020 and the fact there were a couple teams using alternate stadiums may lead to some of the outliers you are seeing. Keep in mind there were 5 stadiums that have humidors, and they plan on bumping that to 10 in 2021. They plan on making changes to the ball as well, so the BP numbers may see some significant vhanges.