GO B YOURSELF HAL

so ludicrous, the amount of luck and chance in this game totally devalues GM input

so tired of my pitchers getting unfairly, undeservedly, and ridiculously torched in 10 leagues for MORE THAN A WEEK

regardless of all star format, even all time all stars compared to yearly all stars, this sh------t shouldn't happen

https://365.strat-o-matic.com/game/replay/473392/365

ive spent my last dollars on this sorry game

Question? From your member info you’ve been involved with 365 since 2017. You constantly post negative comments about the product. If you are so consistently enraged by the game engine why are you still playing?

Question? From your member info you’ve been involved with 365 since 2017. You constantly post negative comments about the product. If you are so consistently enraged by the game engine why are you still playing?

I signed up in 2017 but played only one free trial....then didn't play until 2019 or 2020, and then only 1-2 leagues....really just started from beginning of last year or so....

apologies, I thought this was a free forum to post any kind of comments, positve, negative, or neutral, I didn't realize it was only for false praises

i played SOM first time in 1974-1975 at a local Huntington Beach rec center, and loved it ever since....I was lucky enough to have a Mom that couldn't afford it, to send her 16 year old snot nosed kid from California to Illinois for the '77 SOM convention, where I made the finals (and lost, taking 2nd overall) in the advanced baseball tourney, as well as doing well in basic tourney and also playing baskteball tourney (couldnt play football as the weekend schedule overlapped and you had to choose the leagues you could play)....great experience, never forget it

played mail SOM leagues for a couple years in my late teens, and then after my roommate threw away all my cards and games when I was gone for a while, I didn't have SOM contact until basically last year

this community of people are great....the generosity of advice is exceptional....the social aspect is good

but, whatever this game is, is ISNT SOM......there is way too much luck and anolamies involved

players shouldn't be trying for an extra base down 5 runs...or staying on 3rd on a hit with 2 outs...or stealing 3rd with 2 outs.....or....or....or (fill in blank with any HAL anomaly)

if it is just the negative aspect you dont like,and aren't able to "hate the message, not the messenger", and to the contrary, everything is hunky dory in SOM land, and the computer never screws up and all outcomes are completely fair and deserved, then my only advice would be to just scroll past my comments, so as to not disturb you, as they seem to (having elicited enough of response to ask the question you did)

maybe I'm in the minority, maybe "one man is an island", maybe nobody else feels or experiences the results I've noted......I'll accept that if true....

God bless, everyone that loves SOM, I love....I just hate whatever this algorithm is.....and seems like some, if not a lot, could be easily fixed.....

Well that explains it

It looks to me like you have made the playoffs more than 2/3rds of the time and have 9 championships out of like 28 leagues. Those are fabulous numbers.

Also I am not really sure what you are complaining about, but if you are looking for more realistic pitching results try playing any set other than ATG9.

I would agree with you if, you are complaining about lack of bullpen control, they really ruined the game when they changed the bullpen settings. I pretty much only play the Mystery and Daily sets and some retro sets because they have the old bullpen controls.

But I don't really understand what you are complaining about? Also most people would kill for the results you have had.

Lastly I hate to say this but, I thought you older conservative guys were always talking about how these younger generations are whiners, conplainers and quitters?

It looks to me like you have made the playoffs more than 2/3rds of the time and have 9 championships out of like 28 leagues. Those are fabulous numbers.

Also I am not really sure what you are complaining about, but if you are looking for more realistic pitching results try playing any set other than ATG9.

I would agree with you if, you are complaining about lack of bullpen control, they really ruined the game when they changed the bullpen settings. I pretty much only play the Mystery and Daily sets and some retro sets because they have the old bullpen controls.

But I don't really understand what you are complaining about? Also most people would kill for the results you have had.

Lastly I hate to say this but, I thought you older conservative guys were always talking about how these younger generations are whiners, conplainers and quitters?

from dictionary "While both "whine" and "complain" mean to express dissatisfaction, "whine" implies a more childish, persistent, and often annoying way of complaining about something trivial, usually with a whiny tone of voice, whereas "complain" can refer to expressing a legitimate dissatisfaction in a more direct and assertive manner, potentially with a plan to address the issue. Key points: Severity: Whining often focuses on small, insignificant issues, while complaining can address more serious concerns. Tone:Whining usually involves a high-pitched, irritating tone, whereas complaining can be delivered in a more neutral or even assertive tone.

however, it's understood forum use increase proneness to hyperbole

what is my issue ?

You noted my record and seem to imply I've been the beneficiary of good fortune so I should be happy

when in fact it's been the opposite

the 9 championship teams, only one had an equal actual vs. expected W-L record

of the other 8, 62% of 5 of 8 had worse actual records than expected, highlighting the Sysyphean effort always required for my team(s) to advance

the last 2 teams that missed the playoffs were mercilessly crucified to the tone of -12 actual games vs expected

https://365.strat-o-matic.com/league/472319

and -5 actual games vs expected

stealing division titles away from both teams (per expected w-l records for all teams)

thus I won the majority of championships overcoming negative luck, and sometimes the computer was too ruthless and just stole division titles and post season berths

those are more larger scope examples, while the smaller in game incidents are uncountable

hope those are the type of evidence and examples you were seeking or asking about

I respect your experience, knowledge, and points.....I also thank you for communicating civily, something I've not always noticed from your commenting......

Question? From your member info you’ve been involved with 365 since 2017. You constantly post negative comments about the product. If you are so consistently enraged by the game engine why are you still playing?

the stats say I have approximately 220 comments on this forum.....i would argue less than 10% of those are negative, probably less than 5%......however, it's understandable......good or neutral news doesnt sell and isn't remembered, only bad news.....thus its easy to understand why you think there are negative posts "constantly" posted

Big -- I think the perception is rooted in the vehemence of your complaint(s).

so ludicrous

so tired / unfairly/ ridiculously

this sh------t shouldn't happen

ive spent my last dollars on this sorry game

You are really complaining -- something you should realize. Even the subject of your post ""GO F YOURSELF HAL"

It's all very dramatic, deliberately trying to call attn. Few people do this. If you need to, so be it. If it assuages your anger, then that's probly a good exercise.

But dramatic folks a lot of times don't take accountability for what they do/have done to exacerbate the very issue they are complaining about. For instance, you know that SOM online is not like holding the cards in your hand, yet you carry forward into your next league the expectations that it is/should-- even though you know it is not. That's kind of a cognative dissonance. If you enjoy online, you should probly adjust your expectations. You would get more utility out of the game. But you can't/won't.

For instance, in the league you posted about (https://365.strat-o-matic.com/team/1799417), it is apparent that you are getting a poor outcome of run differential based on the hits/walks/hrs for vs against. But that does sometimes happen over the course of a season. But I wonder why this guy has all RHP SPs when he's playing in a stadium that has a 17/2 break on the BPHR? That's not too smart I think. Should be all LHP SPs if you really want to exploit that. So are those SPs getting blown up? Yea, I would expect them to. In fact, you are setting them up for that by the choice of park. But, you don't see that? Not your fault, somehow, even though you chose everything?

These things add up, Big. And the level of sympathy is commensurate with your level of accountability for your own actions. It's pretty simple actually, if you take responsibility for what you have done to make a problem, you tend to get more sympathy when you complain. But if you say "it's all someone elses fault", that tends to elicit a lot less sympathy.

I like your passion for SOM, but passion pushed without limits can sometimes turn to the negative.

Big -- I think the perception is rooted in the vehemence of your complaint(s).

so ludicrous

so tired / unfairly/ ridiculously

this sh------t shouldn't happen

ive spent my last dollars on this sorry game

You are really complaining -- something you should realize. Even the subject of your post ""GO F YOURSELF HAL"

It's all very dramatic, deliberately trying to call attn. Few people do this. If you need to, so be it. If it assuages your anger, then that's probly a good exercise.




But dramatic folks a lot of times don't take accountability for what they do/have done to exacerbate the very issue they are complaining about. For instance, you know that SOM online is not like holding the cards in your hand, yet you carry forward into your next league the expectations that it is/should-- even though you know it is not. That's kind of a cognative dissonance. If you enjoy online, you should probly adjust your expectations. You would get more utility out of the game. But you can't/won't.

For instance, in the league you posted about (https://365.strat-o-matic.com/team/1799417), it is apparent that you are getting a poor outcome of run differential based on the hits/walks/hrs for vs against. But that does sometimes happen over the course of a season. But I wonder why this guy has all RHP SPs when he's playing in a stadium that has a 17/2 break on the BPHR? That's not too smart I think. Should be all LHP SPs if you really want to exploit that. So are those SPs getting blown up? Yea, I would expect them to. In fact, you are setting them up for that by the choice of park. But, you don't see that? Not your fault, somehow, even though you chose everything?

These things add up, Big. And the level of sympathy is commensurate with your level of accountability for your own actions. It's pretty simple actually, if you take responsibility for what you have done to make a problem, you tend to get more sympathy when you complain. But if you say "it's all someone elses fault", that tends to elicit a lot less sympathy.

I like your passion for SOM, but passion pushed without limits can sometimes turn to the negative.

1. I never said I wasn't complaining......that should have been obvious....maybe you didn't understand that....I merely replied to a comment about "whining".......

2. i disagree that certain type of pitchers must be rostered to be successful in certain stadiums....this team had 4 out of SPs (5 man rotation) being RHP and they went 24 games above .500 winning the division, and the best record in the league.....https://365.strat-o-matic.com/team/1781865 .............your comment was about another current team that has barely played 1/3 of the season, and didn't have a large enough sample size to really draw any long term distinctions....however, I understand your usage of it, as it fit the narrative and agenda you were pushing

3. you also fail to account for many things......nothing you said explains or condones the many flaws in the system, which can be a part of bad luck, unless the part about "setting your expectations less", means we should just accept crap, and don't deserve more for the $$$ spent, nor should SOM be held accountable at all (talk about accountable)......

4.my points weren't about one league only, they were about the multitude of issues on SOM game play......but, I will give you credit.....you, and others, seems to highly dislike any negativity, even its the largest white elephant in the room.....seems everyone should just look the other way, never say a contrary word, and just accept BS.....sorry, I was never raised that way, and even famous historical quotes "silence in the face of injustice is condoning the injustice" mirror that

5. i also wasn't looking for sympathy, especially from unsympathetic people who feel the need to criticize others for merely posting what's true about this game......to all of those folks, I say to note my name, and simply scroll past my comments, so as to not upset and inspire the need to respond, judge, and villify

God bless

We agree on somethings, not others. I suppose we will "agree to disagree". I can accept that.

As to your suggestion of accepting less. A valid point. I will ponder. Life is imperfect and I feel like this is an omnipresent struggle we have to face.