Hall of Fame voters

With all that being said and I 100 percent think Jeter is a first ballot hall of famer. Is he the greatest short stop of all time and if not who would you put over him. I would not include players like Banks and ARoid who played much of their career at other positons.

Bobby Wallace. Best fielding SS ever.

If I'm picking my team, I want Ozzie as my shortstop.

Oh, well then HOF voting aside, if I am picking a team, I want Jeter on it. At ANY position.
Not to mention, there is something about a guy who rockets a dinger for his 3000th in a 5-5 game, and hits a walk-off hit to win the game in his final at bat. I mean that alone may be drama, but this is the kind of stuff he did in ordinary games. He rose to the occasion more often than not. And say what you will--he was clean, and played hard. He made the Yankee brand. They never paid him what he was worth to the franchise. And he never walked or threatened to walk.

The key player on world series championships four out of his first five years. 28.4 offensive WAR his five years (including 8.0 and 7.5 in 1998 and 1999). Defensive metrics did not come into play until 2003 so not clear how bad a fielder he was when he was younger. Batting average (just averaging year totals) was .322 his first five years. Part of a high batting average, medium-power, high contact teams (Jeter, Bernie Williams, Paul O'Neill, Tino Martinez, etc) that held up better than teams that have sluggers who go down the tubes in the play-offs. How do you not vote to put that guy in the Hall of Fame? He comes on the scene and the Yankees start winning the World Series every year. Coincidence?

And I am not all a Yankee fan. But I did respect those teams. And Jeter was THE guy on those teams.

Jeter should be in no doubt in my opinion. I have no problem with someone leaving him off the ballot though. The whole thing is an opinion, this culture of trying to chastise someone for not agreeing with the masses is ridiculous. So one voter didn't vote for him, get over it.

I think the bigger tragedy is the HOF has become the Hall of Good players. Guys like Harold Baines, Andre Dawson, Jim Rice, Larry Walker, Tony Perez, Bill Mazeroski had good careers but I would not consider them great. If these guys are in, why isn't Jason Kendall in? A lot of his numbers stack up really well when compared to other catchers throughout history.

I know Jason Kendall is not a HOF'er, but when you start tossing Harold Baines and the like in, you've really lowered the bar.

Jeter should be in no doubt in my opinion. I have no problem with someone leaving him off the ballot though. The whole thing is an opinion, this culture of trying to chastise someone for not agreeing with the masses is ridiculous. So one voter didn't vote for him, get over it.

I think the bigger tragedy is the HOF has become the Hall of Good players. Guys like Harold Baines, Andre Dawson, Jim Rice, Larry Walker, Tony Perez, Bill Mazeroski had good careers but I would not consider them great. If these guys are in, why isn't Jason Kendall in? A lot of his numbers stack up really well when compared to other catchers throughout history.

I know Jason Kendall is not a HOF'er, but when you start tossing Harold Baines and the like in, you've really lowered the bar.

Yup