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Tue Jun 02, 2020 1:32 am
My educated guess is that if fatigue causes some dice rolls on pitchers cards to switch to hitters cards, the effect is pretty limited.
I say this because I used the 4 Aces strategy quite a lot before ATG9. Now that this strategy has been priced out of the market, why not talk about it? My approach was to squeeze every inning possible out of an array of 4 elite staters (all *SP8 or *SP9). I preferred a 100M DH league--so the SP wouldn't be removed for a PH. I would set all the *SPs to "Slow hook" and "Don't remove B4 F0." With those settings, my starters would generally pitch between 345 and 365 innings apiece. My entire bullpen of 50 cent hard lefties/righties would pitch about 30+ innings total.
A fairly typical version of that kind of team is linked here: https://365.strat-o-matic.com/team/1516552
My starters would often end the game by getting the last out on the same roll that their fatigue factor dipped from F2 to F0. If anyone was pitching tired toward the end of a game, it was the *SPs on my 4 Aces teams.
The point I'm getting at is that these 4 Aces teams often showed a SLIGHT lean toward dice rolls on the hitters card— but the lean was never very much. On the linked team the rolls went 3098 (H) - 3044 (P). I found one old team where the rolls went in favor of the pitchers by about 150, but more often there was this slight lean of 50 to 70 rolls in favor of the hitter. I never saw a tilt as extreme as that reported by danielz. I think danielz's outcome must result predominantly from random chance. It does seem possible that there's a slight tendency to shift some rolls on fatigued pitchers cards to the hitters card.
For what its worth, a typical pitching staff on one of my ATG8 era 4 Aces teams would now cost about 4.5M more under ATG9 than it did before. So I'm gonna have to find myself a new strategy. But it was fun while it lasted!
I say this because I used the 4 Aces strategy quite a lot before ATG9. Now that this strategy has been priced out of the market, why not talk about it? My approach was to squeeze every inning possible out of an array of 4 elite staters (all *SP8 or *SP9). I preferred a 100M DH league--so the SP wouldn't be removed for a PH. I would set all the *SPs to "Slow hook" and "Don't remove B4 F0." With those settings, my starters would generally pitch between 345 and 365 innings apiece. My entire bullpen of 50 cent hard lefties/righties would pitch about 30+ innings total.
A fairly typical version of that kind of team is linked here: https://365.strat-o-matic.com/team/1516552
My starters would often end the game by getting the last out on the same roll that their fatigue factor dipped from F2 to F0. If anyone was pitching tired toward the end of a game, it was the *SPs on my 4 Aces teams.
The point I'm getting at is that these 4 Aces teams often showed a SLIGHT lean toward dice rolls on the hitters card— but the lean was never very much. On the linked team the rolls went 3098 (H) - 3044 (P). I found one old team where the rolls went in favor of the pitchers by about 150, but more often there was this slight lean of 50 to 70 rolls in favor of the hitter. I never saw a tilt as extreme as that reported by danielz. I think danielz's outcome must result predominantly from random chance. It does seem possible that there's a slight tendency to shift some rolls on fatigued pitchers cards to the hitters card.
For what its worth, a typical pitching staff on one of my ATG8 era 4 Aces teams would now cost about 4.5M more under ATG9 than it did before. So I'm gonna have to find myself a new strategy. But it was fun while it lasted!
