ATG8 Poll - Are you satisfied or disappointed?

Just a simple poll. Are you satisfied or disappointed with the "new" ATG8 release?

I voted disappointed for several reasons.

1 - There were no new feature / improvements in the game itself! A new version should have improvements. New players should just be something they do once a month or so with 25 new cards. I say 25 because that would essentially make a new team. 9-12 pitchers and 13-15 hitters.

2 - While there were many updated cards to cadillac seasons few of them were 10+ or top 25 pitchers. I want cadillac Alexander, Johnson, Cy Young. Why does the man the award was named for have a chevy card? I want all my favorite pitchers (Bob Gibson, Bob Gibson) to have cadillac cards.

3 - Any wholesale addition of cards that does not deliver every MVP, Hank Aaron award, and Cy Young award winner is for me a dissapointment.

Now the disclaimer: That does not mean I consider it worthless or without merit or a total failure. To put in context. Growing up most everyone thought I was capable of straight As. And for the most part I delivered. Had a couple Bs because I simply found the class too easy and boring so I ignored it until test time and just winged it. And I did have the one C where I was working 44 hours while taking 15 hours of classes and tried going with cliff notes instead of actually reading the books in a literature class. Point is there were times when my results for whatever reasons were not on a level with what I could have done with minimal effort. The powers that be rightfully called me to task over those classes where I failed to set the curve.

My disappointment with Strat is not based at all on how bad they are or were but on how they are compared to how good I believe they could be.

Maybe they could not give a cadillac card for Pete Alexander because it does not exist. One might see a workable excuse for that. I see a failure that is a direct result of prior decision not to get that year upgraded from chevy to cadillac.

My remedial plan for taking Strat to the top and so far above the rest they would never catch me...... Strat. should you decide to call my bluff and hire me here is the platform I am running on. My resume so to speak.

I believe you should make getting every season in America that was ever considered a true major professional league team in super advanced cadillac status. I would put that Phase one project on a one year timeline and hire/purchase whatever resources were needed to make it happen.

Next phase 2 project would be as each season is converted those super advanced cards get put in to the online game for the mystery card games. There is no room in my vision for mystery leagues with only 5 cards for a player. My goal would be simple. To give every player a super advanced card for every season he played except for maybe his first partial season. Thus a mystery game might have 10 or even 16 Henry Aarons.

Phase 3 would be a variation of the mystery league game and would be designated The Keeper Leagues. Credits for it would be sold at discounted sets of 10-25 years. The person creating the league would designate the first year for the league. So say he designates 1919. He gets Ruth in his last year as a pitcher. After that season completes he automatically gets the 1920 version who was a hitter. If a player's career was erratic with great seasons interspersed with bad you have to carry him in the bad to keep him in the next good season.

Phase 4 would be bringing these cards to ATG. The best of the best get added to regular ATGX (X is for 10) A little marketing there. ATG within the next 2 years would have every MVP season, every Cy Young season, every Henry Aaron award winner, every Rolaids reliever of the year, every rookie of the year, a card for every season a player led in HRs, BA, RBI, doubles, steals, triples, OF assists, or infield chances (assist + putouts).

I agree every player's greatest season's should be represented. How do you have a game where some players greatest season are represented and others are not? All that does is skew game play even more.

They should also remove a lot of cards that never get used. How many people really use players with a .200 batting avg?
There are hundreds of cards like that that should be cut.

I agree that I want the best representative cards of a player.

However, just as it takes great cards to create a team, it also takes bench players and those "players with a .200 batting avg" are needed to fill out a roster in most caps. They don't need to be cut.

Hire Valen plz.

The game is called "All Time Greats" , not "All Time Scrubs".

How about they create a real ATG set just with every player who has won an MVP, hitting award, pitching awards, led the league in particular stats, HOF, greatest seasons etc...


Create a real ALL-Star sub-set from ATG8, then add in top cards from all the other SOM games.

No need to call this a new release - hold off until there are game improvements. Just say there are new cards and some repricing. Some of the repricing makes sense (Randy Jones down a million, Higbe up $400k), but some seems very trivial (Cal Ripken's main card changes by a few pennies, the nickel SPs). Bargains remain and there are a few cool new cards, but not really a true release.

Maybe someone can confirm this or correct me. Back in the early days of ATG 1, ATG 2... There were no common cards from one set to the next? It wasn't until ATG 5 or 6 when they added multiple options on some player cards did they carry over and add to the existing set, when creating a new release?

This brings up a question. There seems to be many different opinions on what a new ATG card release should consist of. Do we want zero cards in the current set included in a new release? Or do we want to keep all of the player options we have accumulated and just keep adding players?

Also, maybe Garcia and the gang could tell us about any of their Windows game play options or settings they might currently have available that could be added to this online game.

Disappointed.

1. RP's are still pitching 350 innings.
2. Prices changes are not significant enough to change old value.
3. Customer requests were ignored.

Additions of new cards are nice but the impact of so many cards have unintended consequences (I like the the new Clemente & Yaz cards which are awesome and should get a lot of run). With so many cards to choose from, the draft would seems to now be a secondary consideration and winning in these leagues will be that more challenging-everybody now has an all-star team at 100m and up that can compete in any environment (lefty, righty, small ball, bomber, etc) whereas in previous versions the park you choose gave you a distinct advantage - the quality of the cards available cancel each other out and "water down" the effect of previously established strategies. I think this has been the case since ATG 6-7 - I personally preferred ATG 2-3 over the newer versions. Seems like 80m, 60m would be more challenging - the higher caps are now plug and play versions and unless you choose different subsets or come up with different themes, our inputs as GM's and managers has been lessened