Fascinating Stats

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Fascinating Stats

PostSun Feb 14, 2016 1:45 am

So in our theme league we're all playing in Forbes '57...

3/4 of the season in and team stats are fascinating and telling...but telling what I'll leave up to you.

So we know there is Home Field Advantage of 10 point bump in batting average written into the logic for hitters right..but do we know when, how and what effect it has when applied???....because 11 of the 12 teams are hitting better at home (expected) but here's the
+ points in their averages +2 +8 +11 +12 +12 +13 (for a team 30 games under .500) +16 +16 +19 +20 +21 +24

11 of the 12 teams have a better record at home (expected) but most are *significantly better* now is that just the 10 point bump in home batting average ...although here it's an average of 15 points thus accounting for the significantly better home records....

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9 of the 12 teams have a better ERA at home (on average about a full run better)


So is there also a Home Field Pitching Advantage written in the code ?????

OR is this all simply stemming from the Home Field hitting advantage....because if so...and keep in mind these are singles parks, and the HR BP is only 1 on both sides...Home Field Hitting advantage IS HUGE!
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Re: Fascinating Stats

PostSun Feb 14, 2016 9:47 am

Its seems as though the other side of the hitting equation has to result in a pitching advantage. Its a zero sum situation. Can't have better hitting without worse pitching results.
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Re: Fascinating Stats

PostSun Feb 14, 2016 11:55 am

Home field advantage is 10 points on the batting avg. , not 10%. Big difference
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Re: Fascinating Stats

PostSun Feb 14, 2016 1:02 pm

Yes good catch on the Batting Average...I knew it was 10 points but it was late and I was tired lol..Thanks
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Re: Fascinating Stats

PostSun Feb 14, 2016 1:06 pm

jrb16915 wrote:Its seems as though the other side of the hitting equation has to result in a pitching advantage. Its a zero sum situation. Can't have better hitting without worse pitching results.


Fair enough...then like I said...if they go hand in hand it seems that 10 point bump is HUGE!
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Re: Fascinating Stats

PostSun Feb 14, 2016 1:12 pm

nevdully's wrote:
jrb16915 wrote:Its seems as though the other side of the hitting equation has to result in a pitching advantage. Its a zero sum situation. Can't have better hitting without worse pitching results.


Fair enough...then like I said...if they go hand in hand it seems that 10 point bump is HUGE!



HOLY SHI******** for a supposedly .1% advantage 15% is not a small leap. that is ENORMOUS!

Honestly NOT at all shocked though as I suspect much more going on here.

And also people, PLEASE keep in mind that when people say 'dice rolls' this is exactly the reason I repeatedly say how ridiculous it is to not be able to understand the plentitude of multipliers that we dont know about.
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Re: Fascinating Stats

PostSun Feb 14, 2016 1:47 pm

I've begged them to get rid of the home field advantage as the park choices themselves confer huge advantages.

Good catch, Nevster.
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Re: Fascinating Stats

PostSun Feb 14, 2016 1:51 pm

The Last Druid wrote:I've begged them to get rid of the home field advantage as the park choices themselves confer huge advantages.

Good catch, Nevster.


Agree with this-- but this is the tip of the iceberg imo.
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Re: Fascinating Stats

PostSun Feb 14, 2016 7:40 pm

Also worth mentioning is that at this point only 2 teams have a winning record on the road, all playing in the same park! Admittedly some teams rosters play into this as well, but all of the guys in this league are experienced players and drafted their teams with the experiment in mind.

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Re: Fascinating Stats

PostSun Feb 14, 2016 7:51 pm

Also, considering what is happening, if we all could have the same roster & same team settings, wouldn't it follow that since we all play an equal number of home and away games, everyone should finish 81-81 as the home advantage and road disadvantage would balance each other out. Somebody who is a math whiz should be able to figure out what role "luck" is playing in this... beyond pythagorean expectations. Is one entire season of "dice rolls" too small a sample size to indicate any other "black box" sh*t going on?
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