17.3 cards are in the set!

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Re: 17.3 cards are in the set!

PostFri Oct 27, 2017 7:57 am

Note that the old bar graphs are wrong, they are not based on any stadium. They are drilling down through the ballpark effects symbols and reading the basic game info below. Go count the HR's for anybody who played or pitched in high or low HR parks and you will see what I mean.

The best reference for card data is still the "Pool" from DD.

I have always been amazed at how poorly SOM understands the game they have been making for over 50 years.
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Re: 17.3 cards are in the set!

PostFri Oct 27, 2017 1:10 pm

RiggoDrill wrote:PITCHERS:

Lowe, Derek, 2002 | R-E | S7* | 9450000
Hudson, Tim, 2003 | R-E | S7* | 8200000
Norris, Mike, 1980 | R-6L | S9* | 7790000
Schmidt, Jason, 2003 | R-1L | S7 | 7350000
Archer, Chris, 2015 | R-E | S6* | 5750000
Murphy, Rob, 1986 | L-2L | R2 | 5410000
Dotel, Octavio, 2002 | R-3R | R2 | 5370000
Swan, Craig, 1978 | R-2R | S7 | 5360000
Benitez, Armando, 2004 | R-3R | R2 | 5350000
Zito, Barry, 2002 | L-6R | S6* | 5350000
Rodney, Fernando, 2012 | R-E | R1 | 5230000
Jansen, Kenley, 2016 | R-4R | R1 | 5200000
Davis, Wade, 2015 | R-1R | R1 | 5190000
Balfour, Grant, 2008 | R-3L | R2 | 5010000
Shields, James, 2008 | R-1R | S7* | 4300000
Russell, Jeff, 1989 | R-3R | R1 | 3900000
Garza, Matt, 2008 | R-1R | S6 | 3610000
Kazmir, Scott, 2008 | L-5L | S5 | 3250000
Howell, J.P., 2008 | L-1L | R2 | 2800000
Wheeler, Dan, 2008 | R-E | R1 | 1870000
Sonnanstine, Andy, 2008 | R-2L | S6* | 1600000
Jackson, Edwin, 2008 | R-1L | S6 | 1010000
Miller, Trever, 2008 | L-4L | R1 | 980000


THANKS! I didn't want to have to go dumpster diving to try and figure out all of these GEMS!
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Re: 17.3 cards are in the set!

PostFri Oct 27, 2017 3:07 pm

Now help input them into DiamondDope using the following link:
http://diamonddope.com/mia.cfm
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Re: 17.3 cards are in the set!

PostFri Oct 27, 2017 7:42 pm

Maybe Barry Bonds got robbed on his 2004 card -- have not yet seen the DD calculations. I always thought that was the better season than the 73 home run one in 2001. Higher OPS -- 1.421 to 1.378. Higher BA, higher OBP. Yet SOM gives Barry 2004 a salary of 11.25 compared to 14.54 for 2001. Yes, he is an 6R, but perhaps this card turns out to be a bargain, despite his defense, running. It's left field after all.
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Re: 17.3 cards are in the set!

PostFri Oct 27, 2017 8:46 pm

Bonds is in DD now...
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Re: 17.3 cards are in the set!

PostFri Oct 27, 2017 9:19 pm

It's the other Bonds year that is the better one.
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Re: 17.3 cards are in the set!

PostFri Oct 27, 2017 9:40 pm

Hack Wilson wrote:Maybe Barry Bonds got robbed on his 2004 card -- have not yet seen the DD calculations. I always thought that was the better season than the 73 home run one in 2001. Higher OPS -- 1.421 to 1.378. Higher BA, higher OBP. Yet SOM gives Barry 2004 a salary of 11.25 compared to 14.54 for 2001. Yes, he is an 6R, but perhaps this card turns out to be a bargain, despite his defense, running. It's left field after all.


It was well expected that the 2004 card wouldn't meet the quality of the 2001 card. The 1.421 OPS was inflated by 120 intentional base on balls, compared to only 35 in 2001, and intentional walks don't count for the creation of the card. Once you remove the intentional cards, Bonds had an on-base in 2001 of .461 vs .414 in 2004, and the slugging was also better in 2001 (.863 vs .812)
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Re: 17.3 cards are in the set!

PostFri Oct 27, 2017 10:22 pm

The Cano 2012 card is up at DD.

He's going to hit RHP very well in any park supporting LH power, though he'll be not much use vs LHP. But his price point seems very reasonable at 8.41M, esp given that he is bulletproof and 2b-1e6.

He just barely made it in the runoff vote, but I think he will be used a lot.
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Re: 17.3 cards are in the set!

PostFri Oct 27, 2017 11:32 pm

I had requested Norris. Next non-random team I make, I'll be sure to use him.
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Re: 17.3 cards are in the set!

PostFri Oct 27, 2017 11:34 pm

Outta Leftfield wrote:The Cano 2012 card is up at DD.

He's going to hit RHP very well in any park supporting LH power, though he'll be not much use vs LHP. But his price point seems very reasonable at 8.41M, esp given that he is bulletproof and 2b-1e6.

He just barely made it in the runoff vote, but I think he will be used a lot.



Please keep in mind that a certain someone worked overtime to get him (and a few others) included in the set.
In fact I nominated him 3 times including the run-off and dealt with some pushback from folks wanting cards that will not be nearly as useful.
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