Dope is down

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LeGrandeOrange

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Re: Dope is down

PostThu Oct 31, 2024 7:38 pm

Thanks for everything Adrian.

Please keep us posted… I feel confident that there is enough support for the site that ample funds would be raised to more than compensate you for your efforts.
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Re: Dope is down

PostThu Oct 31, 2024 9:36 pm

Whatever you need Adrian
Just let us know
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Re: Dope is down

PostFri Nov 01, 2024 3:02 am

I, too, am extremely grateful to Adrian for his creation and maintenance of Diamond Dope over the years. I consult it multiple times every day and whatever limited success I've had is directly attributable to Diamond Dope. Also, a major shout out to Andy and the rest of the community for keeping Diamond Dope current when new cards are added to the player set.

I've been using Diamond Dope for so long that I can remember when ballparks could be searched and a complete list of players used in that ball park popped up that could be sorted multiple ways, including the number of times used in that park, and players could be sorted by their actual stats in that park across various caps, including a composite winning percentage for the player's teams in a particular park.

I doubt that I would play the ATG online game without Diamond Dope, as without it, I likely couldn't compete effectively. I'm sure I'm not alone in my feelings.

With that in mind, and with Diamond Dope enhancing both enjoyment and thus team sales of the ATG game, instead of relying upon vague promises of financial support every time Diamond Dope goes down, how about if SOM collaborates with Diamond Dope and attaches a Diamond Dope surcharge to each ATG team purchased to cover the server fees for Diamond Dope?

I have no idea of the amount of web hosting fees being charged to Diamond Dope, but I would guess that a dollar per team would be a good start and that it would cause no drop in sales, as opposed to a likely loss of sales if Diamond Dope disappeared.

That way, managers who bought the most teams and presumably used and benefitted from Diamond Dope the most would pay their fair share for usage.

It's food for thought. - Bernie
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Re: Dope is down

PostFri Nov 01, 2024 8:01 am

BDWard wrote:I, too, am extremely grateful to Adrian for his creation and maintenance of Diamond Dope over the years. I consult it multiple times every day and whatever limited success I've had is directly attributable to Diamond Dope. Also, a major shout out to Andy and the rest of the community for keeping Diamond Dope current when new cards are added to the player set.

I've been using Diamond Dope for so long that I can remember when ballparks could be searched and a complete list of players used in that ball park popped up that could be sorted multiple ways, including the number of times used in that park, and players could be sorted by their actual stats in that park across various caps, including a composite winning percentage for the player's teams in a particular park.

I doubt that I would play the ATG online game without Diamond Dope, as without it, I likely couldn't compete effectively. I'm sure I'm not alone in my feelings.

With that in mind, and with Diamond Dope enhancing both enjoyment and thus team sales of the ATG game, instead of relying upon vague promises of financial support every time Diamond Dope goes down, how about if SOM collaborates with Diamond Dope and attaches a Diamond Dope surcharge to each ATG team purchased to cover the server fees for Diamond Dope?

I have no idea of the amount of web hosting fees being charged to Diamond Dope, but I would guess that a dollar per team would be a good start and that it would cause no drop in sales, as opposed to a likely loss of sales if Diamond Dope disappeared.

That way, managers who bought the most teams and presumably used and benefitted from Diamond Dope the most would pay their fair share for usage.

It's food for thought. - Bernie


I have no idea what server costs actually are, but it would seem reasonable to me that even 50 cents per team would generate $100-$200 per month in revenue to offset Adrian's cost for the server upgrade.
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Re: Dope is down

PostFri Nov 01, 2024 6:05 pm

If the solution is crowd funding DD - I'm in! Great resource.

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Main Line Expos

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Re: Dope is down

PostFri Nov 01, 2024 9:18 pm

AG,

I echo the sentiments of please do let us know what the cost would be. I know there are many of us (myself included) who would be extremely willing to assist in the solution.

Looking forward to finding a solution.

D
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Re: Dope is down

PostFri Nov 01, 2024 9:23 pm

Here is what the internet says the costs of hosting a web are…all these seem doable to me.

How much does web hosting cost?

Hosting Plan Hosting Cost Range (USD/month)
Shared hosting $5 to $20
WordPress hosting $2 to $10
Dedicated hosting $80 to $500
VPS hosting $20 to $90
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Re: Dope is down

PostSat Nov 02, 2024 3:20 am

It's embarrassing for Strat that a third party is providing such a basic, fundamental service so intrinsic to enjoying the game. Strat should be providing all the data on DD for free as part of the game we all pay for.
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Re: Dope is down

PostSat Nov 02, 2024 5:16 am

MaxPower wrote:It's embarrassing for Strat that a third party is providing such a basic, fundamental service so intrinsic to enjoying the game. Strat should be providing all the data on DD for free as part of the game we all pay for.

Your preaching to the choir, Maxpower. Your point has been brought up many, many times over the years. The chances are that SOM won't see your post. So send your thought to them. Maybe you'll get a bit of traction on this never ending, worthy topic.

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Re: Dope is down

PostSat Nov 02, 2024 6:10 am

leeroyjenkins wrote:Thank you Adrian! Would you be willing to share the quote with the community? Maybe we can work out a patreon kind of thing or something. I see no reason why this should be coming out of your pocket.


Sell it to Strat to recoop your out of pocket expenses. Let them host, but they can keep it out of the core 365 product. Just use a link to direct to DD like the Discussion Board.
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