The proof of concept challenge

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pacoboy

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Re: The proof of concept challenge

PostFri Nov 04, 2016 11:50 am

IF WE GO FIRST COME FIRST CHOICE
1- Marc Pelletier (happy with any selection)
2- Matt T-W (All lefty team)
3- Budabear (The perfect fifth--rotation of 5 non*SP of 7M+)
4- LastDruid (Speedsters)
5- Treyomo (All-out offense)
6. Hittmens (4 SP* aces)
7. Jet40 (happy with any selection)
8. chris_s (all righty team)
9. Ed2014 (All defensive team)
10.Rjnewman (all on base)
11. malamutt2002 (platoon)
12. pacoboy - (all Slugging Team)
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Re: The proof of concept challenge

PostFri Nov 04, 2016 1:54 pm

pacoboy wrote:IF WE GO FIRST COME FIRST CHOICE
1- Marc Pelletier (happy with any selection)
2- Matt T-W (All lefty team)
3- Budabear (The perfect fifth--rotation of 5 non*SP of 7M+)
4- LastDruid (Speedsters)
5- Treyomo (All-out offense)
6. Hittmens (4 SP* aces)
7. Jet40 (super reliever team)
8. chris_s (all righty team)
9. Ed2014 (All defensive team)
10.Rjnewman (all on base)
11. malamutt2002 (platoon)
12. pacoboy - (all Slugging Team)


I believe the two teams left were Super Reliever team and Neutral.
Since I have only tried a super reliever team once with mixed results, I will try it again.
That leaves neutral with you Marc.
Very cool theme league.
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Re: The proof of concept challenge

PostFri Nov 04, 2016 2:16 pm

Marc, if you have the list for my theme handy (8 #'s on each side) please e-mail me. apisano22@verizon.net

QUESTION: for my theme, I'm going to assume I can't platoon any of my starters. (have 1 guy with 8 on the LEFT vs RHP and 1 guy with 8 on the RIGHT vs LHP).

Thanks in advance.

Looking forward to my credit donation to this crew :)
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Re: The proof of concept challenge

PostFri Nov 04, 2016 4:23 pm

Cool, pacoboy, will send it somewhen today.

I'll answer your question with a wider perspective. Here is what owners can and cannot do:

Remember: this is a non-dh league.

With the exception of the owner who owns the given concept:

You must have at least one offensive player who is a starting player both vs lhp and vs rhp (so you are allowed to up to 7 platoons, the way paco described it to be is okay)

You must have at least one starting player with less 50 chances of on-base on both sides

You must have a starting offensive player who has not 8 BP homerun

You must have a starting offensive player who is NOT a A-stealer AND that has a running of 1-15 or less

You must have a starting offensive player who is NOT a 1-rated defender

You must have at least one right-handed hitter (or one right-handed pitcher) AND one left-handed hitter (or one left-handed pitcher)

You cannot draft Sutter, Wilheim, Dale Murray or Schultz. Also, I forgot initially Lee Smith who is a R3 paid over 5M. So I apologize, but I stand correctly that only jet40 can draft Lee Smith in addition to the 4 other super-relievers.

You cannot have a rotation that costs 40M made of 4 stellar *SP nor have a rotation with 5 7M+ non* SP--if you go that way, one non* SP must be paid under 7M

You must have at least one starting pitcher OR one reliever who costs more than 3M

I think this is it.

As for my team: I will use the "Fill out the draft Instantly", making sure it respects the rules above. And I won't make any move before the waivers are done. So in addition to having a neutral stadium, my own challenge will be to build a team from scratch that will exploit all your weaknesses!!!
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Re: The proof of concept challenge

PostSat Nov 05, 2016 4:06 am

Hey Folks, I just set a password to prevent any trouble. You'll find the league in the private leagues below the league directory. Password will be sent to your private message shortly.
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Re: The proof of concept challenge

PostSat Nov 05, 2016 4:10 pm

So we need to have ONE starter who fits the above criteria( example 8 bp hr or A stealer and above 1-15 runner)while 8 starters must meet your chosen criteria. Only ONE or at least one?Seems like you are saying at least one.
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Re: The proof of concept challenge

PostSat Nov 05, 2016 5:54 pm

Sorry if I wasn't clear, but if I take your example, your concept is full on-base, so you obviously need to draft 8 starters with at least 50 direct chances of onbase. You might be tempted to draft Ty Cobb, Shoeless Joe, Speaker, and a build a fast team. However, you are not allowed to reproduce lastdruide's concept of a fast team, so you must make sure that at least one starting player is a slower runner (say 1-14 B stealer). Conversely, you might be tempted to build a Earl Weaver team and draft Bonds, Babe, Schmidt, etc...but again, you must make sure that at least one hitter does not have 8 BP homerun on any side. And so on and so forth for all other concepts.

Hoping it's clearer
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Re: The proof of concept challenge

PostSun Nov 06, 2016 1:32 am

We're only waiting for Malamutt who probably had the toughest job with the platoons.

BTW, it struck me today that Malamutt was the only owner whose requirements would force him to carry more than 24 players, and this could be seen as an unfair status, so I'm inclined to relax the rule for him to a minimum of 7 platoons--which would still be a heck of a ship, and this new requirement would allow him to carry 15 players and 9 pitchers if he wish too. Furthermore 16 players aren't impossible to get with just the draft, also a possible disadvantage.

So I rule that a minimum of 7 platoons and one everyday starter for the platoon concept!!

Of course, Malamutt, you could go to 8 platoons at the waivers if you wish too.

Since all other teams are loaded for the draft, I won't make any change requirements to them. So all other countries eams could use 7 platoons as predefined by the rules.

Hopeflly it makes sense to all!
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Re: The proof of concept challenge

PostSun Nov 06, 2016 11:24 am

I would respectfully suggest that lowering the platoon team's requirements to platoons at five or six positions would make for a more competitive team. As it is that was the only team I would absolutely not have played with as I just think it will be at a competitive disadvantage.
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Re: The proof of concept challenge

PostSun Nov 06, 2016 12:22 pm

I see your point, but part of this theme I think is to test the limits of these strategies...so I would not be inclined to lower the threshold for now

Besides, I don't know how Malamutt will attack this challenge, but I think there is one way to build a 100M roster that could pay off a lot while using 7 platoons...
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