What A Stupid Feature

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Re: What A Stupid Feature

PostThu Dec 20, 2012 4:28 pm

Valen wrote:
Did anyone voice their thoughts to strat?

Wouldn't that require strat be listening??? :lol:



Well John G did just respond to another thread about reverse lineups :shock:
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Re: What A Stupid Feature

PostThu Dec 20, 2012 4:42 pm

Indeed he did. Just noticed that and just thanked him for clarifying/reassuring the part of the issue he addressed.
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Re: What A Stupid Feature

PostThu Dec 20, 2012 5:01 pm

Scanned to see what kind of 200 mil platoon I might come up with for say first base.

Need a LH bat who kills non-reverse righty starter. Draft Norm Cash at 8.73, check.
Need a RH bat who kills non-reverse lefty starter. Draft Gil Hodges at 6.78, check.
Total spent so far 15.51 mil. A little high. Change to Andres Galarraga at 3.29 reducing expense to 12.02. Reasonable.

But now I need to add my reverse platoons.
Need a RH bat who kills righties for the reverse righty starter. Pickings a little slim, draft Suttles at 8.03
Total spent now 20.05 mil. Getting a little uncomfortable but I am determined.
Need a LH bat who kills the reverse lefty starter. Draft Kluszewski at 6.07 mil.

Total spent on platoon now 26.12 mil. Twice what I would have spent drafting Jimmie Foxx.

Spend that kind of money at all 9 positions and my budget is on the LA Dodger range of 234 mil. Hmmm, still need a pitching staff. Anyone up for a custom cap 300 mil league? :lol:

Most likely worse case scenario someone drafts 9L Bagwell at 11.6 mil and bats him third in their lineup against normal lefties and drops him to 5th in their lineup against reverse lefties. I am sure my ability to do that will strike fear in the hearts of every team in the league. :lol:
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Re: What A Stupid Feature

PostThu Dec 20, 2012 5:09 pm

What valen says...trying to cover ALL your bases even in 200m is hard.

BUT

Changing 3 or 4 starters in your lineup even one or two if it's the right one or two can make a pretty big difference.
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Re: What A Stupid Feature

PostThu Dec 20, 2012 5:24 pm

I am playing a lot of $200m now and have off and on thru the years and at one time was actually pretty good at it, (as Greyhond).I have been at the fools errand of trying to win in pitcher parks, finally figured out that I can't do it and have
gravitated to the RH hand home run parks such as MInute Maid , Hilltop and Wrigley 59. In these parks I , and others, go with
entirely or just about entirely right hand teams. And because I don't need to worry normally about LH pitching I don't particularly look for hitters who can also hit LH pitching. Until now.I may now choose to add a few low cost options to my teams as specialists to use against these pitchers.The low cost Valentine is an example. There are others.It is an
interesting option and adds another dimension to the game. Not an important dimension, I think, but it is there.

I do completely agree that this feature should not have been added to existing teams.That is a serious error and should have
been obvious as wrong.
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Re: What A Stupid Feature

PostThu Dec 20, 2012 7:04 pm

Changing 3 or 4 starters in your lineup even one or two if it's the right one or two can make a pretty big difference.

A good argument for having the ability to customize lineups when facing a reverse pitcher. :D

But as noted of course would prefer to know when putting my team together the feature would be in place. Teams already in season probably would be difficult to alter and fully benefit because of the cap penalty for changing out players.
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Re: What A Stupid Feature

PostThu Dec 20, 2012 7:26 pm

Right-
It does make a diff with lineups- and nev's earlier point and Toms is that offense already has the advantages-
so before further improving offense controls- how come we havent looked at improving pitcher controls?
Just because this is easier to implement?
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Re: What A Stupid Feature

PostThu Dec 20, 2012 7:57 pm

Other than turning on clutch feature for pitchers what is there that can help pitchers?

I see the extra lineup control as a positive feature as it gives me more control of my team. I might use that control to build a better team or really mess it up. But bottom line anything that gives me better control I like. I see no reason to avoid giving us more control just because it might help offense more than defense. I am a pitching, defense, speed fan but limiting offense is not one of my goals or even one I consider worthy of caring about.

Nobody is really serious about helping pitchers or we would not have so many teams in bomber parks.
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Re: What A Stupid Feature

PostThu Dec 20, 2012 11:21 pm

The only concern I have about the alternative lineup feature is that it is inserted in the middle of seasons already started but even that is not much of a big deal. I might not have thought this thing through very well but I have already been adjusting my lineup daily, depending on the pitchers I'm facing that night. It is very rare that you face two or three like handed starters that are that different that would make me want to switch out a few guys within a three game series. To me, the ballpark I'm playing in that night carries much more weight than facing a lefty that might be 3R. This just seems like an option for guys that don't want to spend the time each night to evaluate the matchups.

Also, there are many times in real baseball, I know Leyland does it, that a manager will bat a lefty against many leftys but every now and then sit that same guy because that nights lefty is especially tough.
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Re: What A Stupid Feature

PostThu Dec 20, 2012 11:51 pm

I don't see this is an issue in 80m or 100m caps - your three or four highest priced players should still bat in middle of your lineup because they will usually have the highest number of hit/walk chances regardless of who they face.
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