The Goat of all Goats?

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Re: The Goat of all Goats?

PostSun Feb 21, 2021 1:02 pm

OK one more worthless opinion. My vote goes to Brady.
1. Brady has outperformed all others at the modern era position of QB in football.
2. Football teams employ a dozen coaches who spend all week drawing up schemes to confuse and counteract their opponent.
3. The QB has 10 seconds to figure out what the opposing 11 players are going to do and decide the best thing for his 10 teammates to do in response.
4. There is 20 years of game tape exposing Brady's tendencies- if there were any lethal flaws they would have been exposed.
5. Brady has evolved to succeed in different schemes with different players and now different coaches.
6. The worst athlete on the field, he cannot rely on his physical skills to bail him out of trouble- yet still finds a way to win in the NFL.
7. Brady seems to inspire his teammates to focus on their role to contribute to the team's success- particularly in big moments.
8. Brady's legend seems to intimidate opponents and cause them to underperform.
9. Through luck, skill or attitude, Eli Manning and maybe Nick Foles are the only opponents who have risen to the occasion on the biggest stage against Brady. Many have shrunk, but I can't think of anyone else who played their best game against Brady.
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Re: The Goat of all Goats?

PostSun Feb 21, 2021 9:41 pm

There is only one true G.O.A.T. and his name is, Muhammad Ali
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Re: The Goat of all Goats?

PostSun Feb 21, 2021 9:44 pm

labratory wrote:OK one more worthless opinion. My vote goes to Brady.
1. Brady has outperformed all others at the modern era position of QB in football.
2. Football teams employ a dozen coaches who spend all week drawing up schemes to confuse and counteract their opponent.
3. The QB has 10 seconds to figure out what the opposing 11 players are going to do and decide the best thing for his 10 teammates to do in response.
4. There is 20 years of game tape exposing Brady's tendencies- if there were any lethal flaws they would have been exposed.
5. Brady has evolved to succeed in different schemes with different players and now different coaches.
6. The worst athlete on the field, he cannot rely on his physical skills to bail him out of trouble- yet still finds a way to win in the NFL.
7. Brady seems to inspire his teammates to focus on their role to contribute to the team's success- particularly in big moments.
8. Brady's legend seems to intimidate opponents and cause them to underperform.
9. Through luck, skill or attitude, Eli Manning and maybe Nick Foles are the only opponents who have risen to the occasion on the biggest stage against Brady. Many have shrunk, but I can't think of anyone else who played their best game against Brady.


Hell, this argument makes him sound more like Bucky Dent than Babe Ruth :lol:
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Re: The Goat of all Goats?

PostMon Feb 22, 2021 9:46 pm

In response to HITTMENS; THE DRIVE


REALLY? I was not comparing one great comeback drive against another, that argument is so subjective as is the GOAT .
But please dont throw THE DRIVE into the mix. Not sure how the media jumped on board with this notion that Elway was the one and only QB to engineer a fourth quarter comeback . It was a good drive like so many others in the history of the NFL. He was not the first and was not the last to lead a team to a fourth quarter comeback. Additionally it came at the expense of the Cleveland Browns and eventually the Broncos got smoked in the Super Bowl!

I only mentioned Brady's performance against Seattle because it is often overlooked and was engineered against one of the best defenses in the past 20 years, he brought the Patriots the length of the field twice when it mattered most. If I was going to nominate clutch comebacks or drives I might start with Brady leading the Pats back from a 28-3 deficit with 3 1/2 minutes to go in the third quarter against the Falcons in the SB.Or how about Frank (the 3rd) Reich leading the Bills to one of the largest playoff comebacks ever I believe back in the early 90's? And there are numerous others.....

But THE DRIVE..........please........next you will be telling me that the Cowboys with 2 playoff wins in the past 25 years are Americas Team!
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Re: The Goat of all Goats?

PostTue Feb 23, 2021 7:23 pm

Ali and Gretsky
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Re: The Goat of all Goats?

PostSun Feb 28, 2021 9:01 am

Can't argue with the sentiment of those two guys. Was just sticking to Bruce's original laydown. but absolutely The Greatest and The Great belong in the same group of GOATs
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Re: The Goat of all Goats?

PostSun Feb 28, 2021 10:13 am

what about jim thorpe?
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Re: The Goat of all Goats?

PostSun Feb 28, 2021 3:05 pm

freeman wrote:A few details on Brady's leadership skills...

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/n ... Bc5bEtdJZc

It's funny...I have kind of a schizoid view of Brady. Off the field I dont care for his politics and his bland, corporate persona annoys me. But as a football player I have immense respect for him. I never bought into the idea there were two geniuses in New England...


cool. I like his blandness and his personal realization that I respect his abilities as a QB but I wouldn't appreciate being lectured by him with mindless anecdotes. So, in that sense, he falls in line with a Jordan, Gretzky etc.
There are enough athletes and media personalities who reveal their lack of depth with their drivel on tap, in any number of subjects unrelated to moving an object from point A to point B.

So to that, his discretion is uncommon and appreciated.
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Re: The Goat of all Goats?

PostTue Mar 02, 2021 9:28 pm

I would have to vote for Pistol Pete Maravich as the GOAT (but what do I know--I wanted a Johnny Dickshot strat card :D ).
Anyone who could average over 44 points a game in college and 24 points a game as a pro despite being born without a left coronary artery gets my vote-he should not have lived to see his high school graduation!
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Re: The Goat of all Goats?

PostWed Mar 03, 2021 2:39 am

Yeah, that is an amazing fact. I knew he died of cardiac arrest but that he was missing his left coronary system...is just unbelievable. I had a heart attack because my left anterior descending artery was clogged. He didnt even have one! Nor the rest of the left coronary system! And yet he was an amzing athlete.
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