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the super RP

PostPosted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 4:34 pm
by scorehouse
lots of teams try to use murray or adams etc. to pitch several innings and rp constantly. they do it successfully in a lot of leagues. my question, is it worth to have 2 Super Relievers on your team? ex. murray and sutter, adams and murray, sutter and marshall, etc. will hal constantly use both RPs or will one languish on the pine using up cap space?

Re: the super RP

PostPosted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 7:08 pm
by FUDU
If you kept two super RPs I would think you should make one of your SPs a lower salary guy (maybe a specialist) and restrict his IP when he starts?

Re: the super RP

PostPosted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 10:15 pm
by Mr Baseball World
Here is a two super reliever team at 60 million (Wilhelm 323 innings and Murray with 208) that won a title:

TEAM: Fallafel's Infallibles

Won the Championship in League: You Gotta Earn It


Owner: glanny
Manager: Mackmood
Record: 89-73
Home ballpark: Turner Field '05 Initial Salary Cap: $60,000,000
Total current value: $59,856,000
Roster value: $59,710,000
Cash available: $146,000

Team schedule & results | View another team in this league: ----- East Division ----- Big Boys Little Money Baltimore Canners Hapless Wonders 733 Wistful Vista Old Hickory's Volunteers Rolling Thunder Rides Again ----- Central Division ----- No Mo Money Nomad$ Fallafel's Infallibles Knuckleball Mania II Ray Kroc Splurges Roswell Rejects Georgia Walking Dead ----- Midwest Division ----- Portland Sea Dogs Rock Hoppers Tribe '70b Punchy Merkles Navy Blue and Gold Famly Truckster Wagon Queens ----- West Division ----- Sugar Lumps Razzlers 1 Dazzles Duck Snorts High And Tight Devilboy's Doppelgängers Tennessee Trout

Real-life stats Simulated stats Sim L/R splits Sim Home/Road splits Sim Fielding Sim Misc. Postseason

Simulated Stats

Pitchers (10) min. 9, max. 12 (total min. 24, max. 28)
Name T End. W L S BS IP H R ER BB SO HR Hold BkR WpR Bat ERA WHIP BAL Salary
Tudor, John (1987) L S6 7 10 0 0 152.2 166 88 85 74 72 16 -2 0 2 3WL 5.01 1.57 E .91M
Gross, Don (1955) L S5/R3 6 8 0 0 150.0 198 89 81 47 79 24 -1 0 0 1WL 4.86 1.63 1L .87M
Maxwell, Bert (1911) R S7/R3 9 14 0 0 165.0 226 103 94 41 54 19 0 0 7 1WS 5.13 1.62 3R .87M
Williams, Steamboat (1916) R S6/R2 4 3 0 0 42.1 54 27 25 14 7 4 0 4 2 3WL 5.32 1.61 E .65M
Madden, Mike (1986) L S5/R3 11 7 0 0 142.0 175 96 82 62 95 16 0 0 20 1WL 5.20 1.67 3L .50M
Murray, Dale (1974) R R4 14 2 7 3 208.1 128 49 42 71 69 11 -5 0 3 1WR 1.81 .96 2L 5.59M
Wilhelm, Hoyt (1965) R R4 27 13 31 7 323.0 233 96 91 81 185 35 +2 0 17 1WR 2.54 .97 1R 5.36M
DiPino, Frank (1986) L R2 3 2 5 0 45.2 33 13 12 19 27 1 -6 0 7 2WL 2.37 1.14 7L .97M
Clear, Mark (1979) R R3 4 3 1 3 49.1 38 21 17 37 41 4 +9 3 18 1WR 3.10 1.52 7R .92M
Kern, Jim (1977) R R3 3 1 3 0 81.0 77 38 37 39 75 4 +4 0 9 1WR 4.11 1.43 3R .72M
1 player no longer on roster
# Cheney, Tom (1960) R S6/R3 1 10 0 0 90.2 101 65 61 84 54 15 -2 0 3 2WR 6.06 2.04 5R .72M
TOTALS 89 73 47 13 1,450.0 1429 685 627 569 758 149 3.89 1.38


Hitters (14) min. 13, max. 17 (total min. 24, max. 28)
Name B P Def. AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB CS E Stl Run BA OBP SLG Inj BAL Salary
Rice, Del (1957) R C 2(0)e1 446 51 88 7 4 29 68 38 112 0 0 12 E 1-9 .197 .260 .426 6 4L 3.21M
Nolan, Joe (1983) L C 4(+2)e4 105 20 33 10 1 3 16 8 15 0 0 3 E 1-9 .314 .360 .514 2 4R .95M
Wynegar, Butch (1986) S C 4(0)e3 63 11 12 2 1 3 9 9 7 0 0 3 E 1-8 .191 .288 .397 3 4L .74M
Money, Don (1982) I R 1B 3e15 477 74 133 20 3 31 94 44 85 0 0 11 E 1-10 .279 .337 .528 2 3R 5.12M
Dahlgren, Babe (1939) R 1B 1e13 116 9 22 4 2 4 13 11 15 0 0 1 D 1-10 .190 .256 .362 1 E .91M
Wambsganss, Bill (1919) R 2B 2e18 647 71 174 21 2 8 62 40 62 21 8 15 A 1-15 .269 .313 .345 0 E 1.13M
Gardner, Larry (1920) L 3B 1e11 557 61 179 34 6 1 45 62 52 2 6 8 D 1-12 .321 .387 .409 0 1R 3.94M
Bowa, Larry (1977) S SS 1e14 683 80 192 24 3 2 48 22 66 26 6 12 A 1-17 .281 .302 .334 1 E 3.39M
Meusel, Bob (1923) R LF 1(-4)e9 588 68 144 29 7 17 58 31 130 10 8 7 B 1-15 .245 .280 .405 1 E 4.84M
Leflore, Ron (1980) R LF 4(+3)e15 93 15 22 9 2 0 10 6 16 14 3 4 AAA 1-17 .237 .280 .376 1 1R .73M
Cedeno, Cesar (1977) R CF 1(-4)e1 575 91 159 39 14 20 83 54 55 45 20 0 AA 1-17 .277 .348 .497 1 2L 6.77M
Crutchfield, Jimmie (NeL) L CF 2(+2)e6 128 18 32 1 5 0 12 10 12 2 1 1 C 1-17 .250 .302 .336 1 2R 1.30M
Clemente, Roberto (1969) R RF 1(-5)e7 475 73 147 20 9 19 62 45 86 1 2 4 D 1-15 .310 .371 .510 2 1L 6.84M
Post, Wally (1956) R RF 4(-2)e12 6

Re: the super RP

PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 12:55 pm
by scorehouse
wow. did you set both for all rp roles or did you divide them?

Re: the super RP

PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 3:49 pm
by rburgh
http://onlinegames.strat-o-matic.com/team/1108242

Here's a nice team using the two Cubs' super relievers from this year's BS - playoffs still in progress.

Re: the super RP

PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 6:22 pm
by scorehouse
settings my man , settings?

Re: the super RP

PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 8:38 pm
by rburgh
Wasn't my team. Honestly, do you need someone to hold you when you pee, too?

http://somonline.wikia.com/wiki/Super_Hal_Bullpen_Roles

Re: the super RP

PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 8:46 pm
by Chompsky
I'm using Dale M & Hoyt W right now in a BS League. I do feel I might have overdone it.

On the other hand, all four teams in my division are in sluggers parks, and I went real cheap with my starters.

I use Hoyt as my #1 option versus very heavy RH leaning team and Dale as my #1 elsewhere.

If I had to do it over again I'd probably either a) get two super relievers that were a little more different (Hoyt is only very narrowly better against righties) or b) spend 4-5m on the #2 guy rather than 5.5m on two.