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Saturday morning boxscore quiz

PostPosted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 3:06 am
by Corky
Some of you may have noticed this happen recently, so I have a feeling it will be answered very quickly, I found it interesting however so I figured i'd mention it here.

A closer comes into the game and starts the bottom of the 9th, his team winning by 1 run. He goes on to retire the side in order ending the game. Pitcher is not credited with the save. How does this happen?

Re: Saturday morning boxscore quiz

PostPosted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 8:21 am
by 42Tsunami
Hadn't heard of this happening before... :?

"Though he protected a one-run lead in the ninth inning, Mariano Rivera was credited with the victory -- not a save -- due to the discretion of the official scorer, who invoked Rule 10.17 (c) to state that David Robertson had been "ineffective and brief" in his eighth-inning appearance" - MLB.com

Re: Saturday morning boxscore quiz

PostPosted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 8:58 am
by george barnard
"Ineffective and brief".

Sounds like a description of the love life of certain SOM players. ;)

Bill

Re: Saturday morning boxscore quiz

PostPosted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 10:48 am
by Superfly41
Real reason was to help Jim Johnson in the save race. Absurd as many saves should not be awarded.

Re: Saturday morning boxscore quiz

PostPosted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 12:18 pm
by Corky
42Tsunami wrote:Hadn't heard of this happening before... :?

"Though he protected a one-run lead in the ninth inning, Mariano Rivera was credited with the victory -- not a save -- due to the discretion of the official scorer, who invoked Rule 10.17 (c) to state that David Robertson had been "ineffective and brief" in his eighth-inning appearance" - MLB.com



Um yeah....that's why I said it would be answered quickly but just wanted to share it here. Thanks for your tact. :roll:

Re: Saturday morning boxscore quiz

PostPosted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 12:23 pm
by Corky
Superfly41 wrote:Real reason was to help Jim Johnson in the save race. Absurd as many saves should not be awarded.


Great point. If the scorer can award wins outside the norm then they should apply it to saves as well. If a guy comes in with a 3 run lead and gives up 2 homers and loads the bases and gets out of it should that be a save?

Re: Saturday morning boxscore quiz

PostPosted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 2:12 pm
by Ursoid
Corky wrote:
Superfly41 wrote:Real reason was to help Jim Johnson in the save race. Absurd as many saves should not be awarded.


Great point. If the scorer can award wins outside the norm then they should apply it to saves as well. If a guy comes in with a 3 run lead and gives up 2 homers and loads the bases and gets out of it should that be a save?

Sure, for the guy that makes the diving stop on the scorched cookie the alleged closer served up, probably on a 3-1 pitch.