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Educate me.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 8:13 am
by Mathew Quigley
I just noticed Munsons' 78 card that he has over 600 at bats yet is a 2 injury. I always thought over 600 was injury free. I know things have changed since I hadn't played in a while but that seems strange to me. I understand how the injury ratings work once strat gives them the rating but I guess I no longer understand how they come by the rating.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 8:55 am
by visick
The max injury a player with 600+ PA's is 3 games.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 8:58 am
by visick
0-599 PA's= 15 games
600-679 PA's= 3 games
680+ PA's= remainder of game

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 11:30 am
by Mr Baseball World
Additionally, injury free comes if they played in all of their teams games for the season.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 2:21 pm
by STEVE F
Good question. I've wondered about that Munson card myself.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 2:32 pm
by jlt53
There are at least a couple other catchers like that. The expensive Dickey card and one of the Parrish cards have more than 600 PAs and 2 injury ratings. May be other ones I haven't used. Seems to me that a player like that would probably miss fewer games than someone with a 1 injury rating and less than 600 PAs, but that is just a guess. It does spare them from the dreaded 15-gamer.

Doesn't make much sense, though. Does Strat have info that, in those specific years, Munson, Dickey, Parrish got injured a lot, just not very badly?

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 5:36 pm
by Valen
I think the number of injuries on a card is tied to the number of games caught as much as whether they actually spent time on the DL. Some catchers like Munson may not have caught enough games to get the injury on the 1 roll instead of 2 but because they hit higher in lineup or were with better teams who turned the lineup over a little more they got the PAs to only be at risk for 3 games at a time.

Another example to me of a weakness in their injury algorithm. A leadoff hitter on a given team is more likely to have the low injury risk 3 game or even just rest of game risk while an 8th or 9th place hitter get full 15 game injury risk even though both were injury free entire season. Plus leadoff hitters on the better teams or even middle of lineup guys on the better teams achieve that magical low risk injury advantage due to the extra PAs they get from being on an outstanding offensive team.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 5:41 pm
by Sheikyerboudi
Another example of this is Mickey Tettleton. Tettleton has 522 AB's and 109 walks and an injury on 2 chances even though he qualifies for 3 games only. I believe it's because catchers are injured more frequently or are given more days of rest than other players.

-The Sheik