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I don't understand.

PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 2:58 pm
by Mathew Quigley
Alexander pitched a shutout his first playoff game yet his whip is .67. If nobody scored how is it something other than 0? Doesn't WHIP mean with hitters in position meaning to score?

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 3:08 pm
by ScumbyJr
Mathew Quigley wrote:Alexander pitched a shutout his first playoff game yet his whip is .67. If nobody scored how is it something other than 0? Doesn't WHIP mean with hitters in position meaning to score?


No, WHIP= (Walks +Hits)/(Innings Pitched)

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 3:18 pm
by Roosky
ScumbyJr wrote:
Mathew Quigley wrote:Alexander pitched a shutout his first playoff game yet his whip is .67. If nobody scored how is it something other than 0? Doesn't WHIP mean with hitters in position meaning to score?


No, WHIP= (Walks +Hits)/(Innings Pitched)


Yep, and whip is a much more important stat than ERA in my opinion.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 3:42 pm
by Valen
Doesn't WHIP mean with hitters in position meaning to score?

Probably the dream of all pitchers to face only hitters who do not mean to score. I can see where that could lead to more shutouts.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 8:17 pm
by Mathew Quigley
In my ignorance I have always gone for lower whip. I just was doing it for the wrong reason. LOL. Thanks guys. :shock:

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 9:24 pm
by ScumbyJr
Mathew Quigley wrote:In my ignorance I have always gone for lower whip. I just was doing it for the wrong reason. LOL. Thanks guys. :shock:


RISP =Runners in scoring position. I've only seen it in terms of hitters not pitchers.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 9:14 am
by Valen
Wonder why that is? With all the super fancy stats floating around these days you would think someone might consider publishing stats on how pitchers do when bases are empty verses man on first verses men in scoring position. To me that is a more important stat than FIP or many of the other sabr stats relating to pitching. Of course it would be a verifiable stat that one would have trouble copywriting or touting as the stat you created to show how much smarter you are than everyone else.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 7:12 am
by Mathew Quigley
They must have some Stat like that in the majors. Watching games on TV I've heard them talk about how good a pitcher is when he pitches from the stretch.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 9:21 am
by bkeat23
Mathew Quigley wrote:They must have some Stat like that in the majors. Watching games on TV I've heard them talk about how good a pitcher is when he pitches from the stretch.


I don't know the criteria, I think they call it Pressure Situations.

Like after the 7th inning, close game. Which could mean tied, or tying or winning run at the plate or on base.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 10:15 am
by Valen
These days if they only did stats after the 7th inning only relievers would be included. :lol: