i just noticed that when Gagne gets fatigued, he seems to go from F9 to F0 in one batter? no F7, F4, etc. in between. then again, i looked a little further Gagne pitched in game 128, then wasn't used until games 140/141 back to back(team went on a 2-9 losing streak). he faced 4 batters in game 140, then 7 batters in game 141, coming into both games in the 8th in close situations. he closed both games whilst maintaining an F9 rating thoughout both games. so the bottom line, is i don't have a clue how strat determines F ratings. i do know in the first game he threw only 12 pitches then followed up with 22. maybe 25 pitches is the limit or 40 pitches back to back. anyone know? and if you did, you still couldn't manage differently. seems for that we'd need pitch count option boxes to check?