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Ok, help with HAL's reasoning

PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2015 11:38 pm
by andycummings65
http://onlinegames.strat-o-matic.com/team/1410118

Franchise Theme League
Lineup
C-Severeid
1b-Fred Luderus
2b-Bid McPhee
SS- Wally Gerber
3b-Honus Wagner
LF-Fred Clarke
CF-Harry Hooper
RF-Max Carey
DH-John McGraw
Bench--Dots Miller, Ned Hanlon

Ok, Clarke is a 2 INJ, so my plan has been to carry Miller on bench, so when Clarke misses time, Miller is assigned to DH, moving McGraw to 3b, moving Wagner to RF, moving Carey to LF to fill in for Clarke. That's how I have the lineups set.
However, instead of following my instructions, when Clarke is injured, HAL puts Ned Hanlon in CF, and moves Hooper to LF, taking my 1 out of CF, not to mention Hanlon's bat is worse than Miller's.

What can I do, other than drop Hanlon for a bench player who HAL won't try to put in CF?

Re: Ok, help with HAL's reasoning

PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2015 11:46 pm
by hackra
a blip in Hal logic, but the game is programmed to keep the DH in the DH slot as a top priority and WILL NOT use your DH as backup for a position player unless there is no other option (even if you have that player listed as a backup).

Therefore, if you have McGraw set for DH, he will be the DH every game and will never be used at 3b.

You can manually change the lineup for a long injury...but can't adjust for a partial series.

Re: Ok, help with HAL's reasoning

PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 8:02 am
by andycummings65
Ahhh. Ok, thanks hackra

Re: Ok, help with HAL's reasoning

PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 10:23 am
by bkeat23
".....so my plan ...."

We plan, HAL laughs. :lol:

Re: Ok, help with HAL's reasoning

PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 10:24 am
by mykeedee
Also, too many levels of change! If you look at the "help with these settings" tab, HAL cannot support multiple levels of substitution. If 1 of your subs is in the starting lineup HAL will make that change, but the sub for that guy now has to come from the bench or HAL will make the changes based on some weird logic chain using a combination of the least number of subs already in your starting lineup. You'd think that by now the bench manager portion of "HAL's brain" would've been updated.

Mike

Re: Ok, help with HAL's reasoning

PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 10:57 am
by andycummings65
mykeedee wrote:Also, too many levels of change! If you look at the "help with these settings" tab, HAL cannot support multiple levels of substitution. If 1 of your subs is in the starting lineup HAL will make that change, but the sub for that guy now has to come from the bench or HAL will make the changes based on some weird logic chain using a combination of the least number of subs already in your starting lineup. You'd think that by now the bench manager portion of "HAL's brain" would've been updated.

Mike



Yes, Mike, you're right. For me, the guy who always tells HAL's bullpen complainers that "You're giving HAL too many instructions", I did the same thing with my lineups. :lol:

Re: Ok, help with HAL's reasoning

PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 3:52 pm
by rburgh
Maybe you should keep your DH slot vacant and make sure nobody on your bench has more PA's than Muggsy. Then HAL would put him there when he was not otherwise occupied.

Re: Ok, help with HAL's reasoning

PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 7:12 am
by bkeat23
rburgh wrote:Maybe you should keep your DH slot vacant and make sure nobody on your bench has more PA's than Muggsy. Then HAL would put him there when he was not otherwise occupied.

That may not guarantee HAL doesn't change the desired batting order when bringing a player off the bench to fill the empty spot.

Re: Ok, help with HAL's reasoning

PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 11:21 am
by Salty
I just had this very same issue in the playoffs-

Kiner was my DH and Simmon in LF got hurt for 15 gamer towards the end of the season.

HAL put Jud Wilson in LF who also then got hurt and then turned to Johnny +5 arm with 5 def. as his replacement
while Kiner stayed in as DH.

But, yes, SoM emailed me back to say that the DH slot won't get used as a sub, so whoever is there stays there unless they are injured, as folks are saying.

Re: Ok, help with HAL's reasoning

PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 11:39 am
by STEVE F
One way to beat it is to have nobody else on the team that can play that position. I had Blank (I forget who) at 1b and Carew at DH. I also had the cheap Sandy Alomer. I wanted Carew to move to 1b when Blank got injured, but HAL put Alomar there. So I got rid of Alomar and only then did HAL move Carew to 1b when Blank got injured. Of course you run the risk of the backup being injured at the same time and having a 5 put in there, so I'd probably only do this at 1b.