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there should never be

PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 12:16 pm
by scorehouse
a cash penalty for drop/add players. its unrealistic. in MLB if a 15 mil player gets hurt for the season, there isn't a "penalty"? they just sign or bring up another player. the drop/add penalty should be abolished

Re: there should never be

PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 12:40 pm
by mykeedee
Scorehouse, if that was done there would be a never ending parade of drops and adds to accommodate the park each team is playing in. Petrosian and Milter have been fighting about this for a while now, and that's in an unlimited cap league, imagine all the drama in an 80 or 60 million cap if this was happening. My thoughts on this would be a maximum 5 player inactive pool as part of your draft card (also with a cap, maybe an addional 10% of your league cap) that you could use to mitigate injuries with no penalty. Picking up free agents from a thousand player pool without any penalty is just not gonna work. (IMHO)

Mike

Re: there should never be

PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 12:52 pm
by Mr Baseball World
In real baseball if a superstar gets hurt, they call up someone who failed to make the big league roster. They don't have a Hall of Famer in a career year waiting to get to play as we do here. Hence real life and this are fundamentally different. Real life also has no cap.

Re: there should never be

PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 1:41 pm
by george barnard
Think of the add/drop penalty as a luxury tax.

Re: there should never be

PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 2:08 pm
by Valen
In real life it is true teams can put the player on the DL and call someone up from minors.
But they continue to pay the player.

In real life teams can cut a player at any time during the season and replace him.
But they continue to pay the player because the contract is guaranteed.

Even if the contracts were not guaranteed you think if Arizona cuts Greinke after 81 games he will give back 100% of his annual salary?

Re: there should never be

PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 4:36 pm
by jrb16915
Valen wrote:In real life it is true teams can put the player on the DL and call someone up from minors.
But they continue to pay the player.

In real life teams can cut a player at any time during the season and replace him.
But they continue to pay the player because the contract is guaranteed.

Even if the contracts were not guaranteed you think if Arizona cuts Greinke after 81 games he will give back 100% of his annual salary?


Well, the player they replace Greinke with, will only get paid for the remainder of the season, so that is a non-point

Re: there should never be

PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 4:44 pm
by ScumbyJr
There isn't a pool of free agents waiting to be picked up.

Re: there should never be

PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 12:35 am
by Valen
Well, the player they replace Greinke with, will only get paid for the remainder of the season, so that is a non-point

How can it be a non-point? If Arizona dropped Greinke they would still be on the hook for his salary for rest of season. They would not get any of it back. And they would still have to come up with the money to pay the replacement. If you have a cap that basically means no replacement at all.

So you have your 80 mil or whatever your cap is. You drop a $10 mil player in Strat half way through season you get almost all the salary back to spend on a replacement. In real world you would not get any of it back. So now you would only have $70 mil. And assuming you had been carrying a full roster you probably had less than a mil unspent. That is all you would have to fund that replacement. To even resemble real life the entire salary method would have to be redone to prorate the salary and charge you for the games that player was on your roster. And to prevent daily swapping there would still need to be a fee/penalty of some kind as mykeedee pointed out.

Re: there should never be

PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 8:29 am
by scorehouse
i think they'd be on the hook for the life of his contract not just the rest of the current season?

Re: there should never be

PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 12:59 pm
by Valen
That is true. They would be on the hook for life of contract.

Wouldn't it be cool if when you dropped a player in strat you had to keep paying him for rest of that season and the next 6 teams you create. :lol:

Returning to the original proposition....

a cash penalty for drop/add players. its unrealistic. in MLB if a 15 mil player gets hurt for the season, there isn't a "penalty"? they just sign or bring up another player. the drop/add penalty should be abolished


The option to do this technically already exists. When you create your league choose custom cap and make it 999 mil. Then there is effectively no cap penalty that make a difference. All teams could add and drop to whatever extent made them happy.