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Groh

PostPosted: Wed May 01, 2019 11:11 am
by Hittmens
In my 5th year of using him in his 654th game he hit his first home run. On a 2-6 1-8 triple
I am assuming an inside the park. Btw the previous 4 Seasons with no homers he drove in over 100 rbi every year including a high of 126

Re: Groh

PostPosted: Wed May 01, 2019 9:49 pm
by rburgh
Heinie Groh was a very good player. He had a 5 year stretch in his career where he accumulated 28 bWAR (28.6 fWAR), which is a hell of a 5-year stretch, especially for an infielder in the deadball era.

But his cards that we have (1917 and 1920) are priced at 4.96 and 4.85 million respectively. His 1917 season earned 7.0 bWAR or 6.9 fWAR. His 1920 season earned 3.9 bWAR 0r 4.1 fWAR. Go figure. For comparison purposes, Last year Christian Yelich led NL hitters with 7.6 bWAR, fellow LH outfielder Corey Dickerson had 3.8 WAR.

Any attempt to reduce player performance to a comprehensible "player card" and then assign that card a "salary" is going to have flaws, but in this case, Groh's Yelich level season is virtually indistinguishable from his Dickerson level season. Of course, attempts to reduce that player's performance to one number (WAR) suffers from the same defect.

Re: Groh

PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2019 7:13 am
by Hittmens
Nice information about Groh. I have only used the 4.96 card. The cheaper card only makes sense if you are facing a lot of lefties. Having said that my current league is loaded with lefty starters and I still went with the 4.96