Strat-O-Matic Baseball 365

While set is not in yet, individual pricing for some players is.

To see individual pricing change set number on card view to 291 (from 281) An example of Joel Pineiro (priced at 6,72 M)

https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/90461/2001/1/291

Kind of an arduous process, but I checked a few other common underpriced players:

Butch Henry went up to about $5.5 mill so about a 2.0 mill increase.
Gates Brown went up about 0.50 in price
Kal Daniels went up about 0.60 in price
Mariano Duncan went from 1.05 to 1.29

Dale Murray went from 5.99 to 5.97 so they must be factoring in the new relief rules into the pricing???

11.30 Maddux went up to 11.49
9.38 Pedro went up to 10.67
3.94 Duren went up to 5.67
2.36 Klippstein went up to 2.82
Rueter went from 0.65 to 0.92 (still a bargain)
Heredia went from 1.23 to 2.94

So clearly it appears they changed starting pitchers more than any other position.

Of course. EVERYTHING in baseball is always done to help increase hitting. That's why today's MLB game is such a joke!

Ha Ha. Looks like they may have disabled it to stop people from looking. I just looked for a couple more and it didn't work. So I checked Klippstein who I had already checked and he didn't work either. So either tons of people trying it and jamming up the site or they closed the back door.

STEVE F wrote:Of course. EVERYTHING in baseball is always done to help increase hitting. That's why today's MLB game is such a joke!

Steve,

Yep, my thought exactly ... Starting pitching goes up the most + Relievers get less effective = More Scoring.

Where is there info about the bullpen changes? I heard they'll limit the SUPERsuper-reliever, but I've heard very little.

That's interesting to think about, egvrich. How much are the overpowered bullpen pieces contributing to pitching's existence in ATG? Pitching felt way on its back foot a while back but maybe less in ATG8 as smallball has proven it can win in 5000+ card days. Though, i really don't know the meta with ATG8. Quite a while back Gates Brown felt like the only unique card, though, which has more to say about him than it does the potential downsides of a huge card set.

The thing about a reprice is its a lot of cards!!! I don't know that however many folks saw are representative of what'll change overall. Gates Brown still under 6 is like, welp.

nels52 wrote:Where is there info about the bullpen changes? I heard they'll limit the SUPERsuper-reliever, but I've heard very little.

That's interesting to think about, egvrich. How much are the overpowered bullpen pieces contributing to pitching's existence in ATG? Pitching felt way on its back foot a while back but maybe less in ATG8 as smallball has proven it can win in 5000+ card days. Though, i really don't know the meta with ATG8. Quite a while back Gates Brown felt like the only unique card, though, which has more to say about him than it does the potential downsides of a huge card set.

The thing about a reprice is its a lot of cards!!! I don't know that however many folks saw are representative of what'll change overall. Gates Brown still under 6 is like, welp.

Fixing the drastically underpriced starting pitchers without changing the drastically underpriced hitters in the same fashion doesn't fix much of anything.

The good pitchers are going to cost more (Heredia more than doubled in price Duren nearly doubled in price), relievers won't be as effective, but the one off hitters are only going up a little bit (10%??). All they've done is give more advantage to the hitters. I'd have been much happier if the one off hitters had gone up similarly instead of incrementally.

Exactly. And Pedro? Who is going to use a $10.67 5 day SP??

Hey, they didn't even announce prices yet you secret agents! Let's not say what 9 is THAT quick.

Ooh, earlier I was thinking what are the most "Memorable Prices" in ATG history? I think that 2000 Pedro takes the cake at 9.28 mil. Close to 11mil sounds different, no matter how different the meta. That 9.28 Pedro was so insistently priced, it was a "police-man" or pillar of any format under 100 mil. 9.28 Pedro in 80 mil, wheeew.

Idk how many cards ya'll looked at but there'll be new contours to the set y'know?

Iconic Prices
9.28 Pedro Martinez
4.47 Jim Kaat --------> He's 4.52 now right?
ATG2-3 Mays......idk the price though haha
7.63 Frankie Frisch
2.90 Bobby Wallace
1.86 Joe Sewell

I'm forgetting the particulars on all those ATG2 Smallball boys. Chance, Meusel, Bush

If for example, they raise all the salaries of the most egregious pitcher bargains, implement rules to limit the use of the super reliever, and still kept all the hitter salaries the same, the net result is a positive in the standard $80M leagues. Teams will have to spend more for a good pitching staff, and can spend less on hitting. The big problem will be large cap leagues. Overall, I think the smaller cap leagues will benefit from changes like the ones we've uncovered so far.