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Skewed buck Leonard fielding results - listed wrong?

PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2022 8:52 am
by tdkearns
Leonard is listed as a 1 fielder at 1B. But his results for me are more like a 3 fielder. Made Only 25 out of 42 x chances. See roster below. Am I reading it wrong? Seems way out of whack. I know all the probabilities re random chances. But could he be labeled wrong?
If anyone else had the $8.68 million buck Leonard card, could you check your results and let me know?


https://365.strat-o-matic.com/team/fielding/1668089

Re: Skewed buck Leonard fielding results - listed wrong?

PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2022 10:29 am
by goffchile
He committed 13 errors. That means he got to the ball with his 1 rating but did not make the play.

Re: Skewed buck Leonard fielding results - listed wrong?

PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2022 9:24 pm
by barterer2002
goffchile wrote:He committed 13 errors. That means he got to the ball with his 1 rating but did not make the play.


Wait is that at all accurate? I didn’t think errors had anything to do with range just the number after e.
I’ve always had the thought process that the range would affect the x throws and would agree that Leonard had a statistically unlucky season.

Re: Skewed buck Leonard fielding results - listed wrong?

PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2022 12:39 pm
by goffchile
I would be happy to be corrected but my understanding is the first thing that needs to be determined is whether or not the player gets to the ball. So if there’s an X chance you use the range combined with a roll and cross it on the fielding chart. Then with the e rating to determine the outcome. This is why a 1e20 is better than a 4e4. With a four rating balls bounce through and never get a chance to become “errors”—-they are just scored as hits. But just because the player gets to the ball doesn’t mean he makes the out there still a possibility that he makes an error.



https://joeposnanski.substack.com/p/thi ... -matic?s=r

https://youtu.be/xa3D8JU2taQ

Using the link that you supplied. Compare Leonard with Babe Herrmann and I think you understand what I’m saying. Herrmann has a four range. He had more X chances but made fewer outs and fewer errors. The fewer errors are product of some of those chances become hits.

Re: Skewed buck Leonard fielding results - listed wrong?

PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2022 2:31 pm
by barrmorris
I believe that board game probabilities for a first baseman with a 1e15 rating are:

If not holding runner on and infield not in:
100% gets to ball (no chance of a base hit)
25.5% chance of 1 base error
1.4% chance of 2 base error

If holding a runner on or infield in:
20% chance of single
+
25.5% chance of 1 base error (on top of single if it occurred)
1.4% chance of 2 base error (on top of single if it occurred)

Re: Skewed buck Leonard fielding results - listed wrong?

PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2022 2:34 pm
by goffchile
The above is important because even with 1 rating, some balls will get through because of other issues (like holding the runner).