Update: SOM has fixed the Pre-Season Salary Floor problem

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Re: Salary Floor Should NOT Apply to Pre-Season...Currently

PostSun Jun 19, 2022 3:25 pm

MaxPower wrote:
ScumbyJr wrote:Yes, it should not apply to pre-season. Then the question becomes -What happens if a team does not correct the salary floor issue before opening day?

The answer is to allow add-drops that increase a team's payroll, not disallow all drops that result in <90%.


Seems to me that the 90% floor should apply to the sum of cash + payroll. What if you decide early in the season you should have drafted Dimaggio instead of Mays? Dropping Mays puts you under the floor. Doing it this way (90% of (cash + payroll)) does not prevent a manager from being stupid and having lots cash and a small payroll, but it does prevent dozens of intra-season drops, which I believe is the issue at hand. Also requires no special handling by the code logic pre and during the regular season.
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Re: Salary Floor Should NOT Apply to Pre-Season...Currently

PostSun Jun 19, 2022 3:26 pm

STEVE F wrote:
MaxPower wrote:
ScumbyJr wrote:Yes, it should not apply to pre-season. Then the question becomes -What happens if a team does not correct the salary floor issue before opening day?

The answer is to allow add-drops that increase a team's payroll, not disallow all drops that result in <90%.

That won't help if you're trying to shed salary PRE waivers.

I think we're all agreed there should be no floor before Opening Night. The question I was responding to was how to handle teams that do not get above the floor before Opening Night.
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Re: Salary Floor Should NOT Apply to Pre-Season...Currently

PostSun Jun 19, 2022 3:29 pm

sjudd wrote:
MaxPower wrote:
ScumbyJr wrote:Yes, it should not apply to pre-season. Then the question becomes -What happens if a team does not correct the salary floor issue before opening day?

The answer is to allow add-drops that increase a team's payroll, not disallow all drops that result in <90%.


Seems to me that the 90% floor should apply to the sum of cash + payroll. What if you decide early in the season you should have drafted Dimaggio instead of Mays? Dropping Mays puts you under the floor. Doing it this way (90% of (cash + payroll)) does not prevent a manager from being stupid and having lots cash and a small payroll, but it does prevent dozens of intra-season drops, which I believe is the issue at hand. Also requires no special handling by the code logic pre and during the regular season.

Ooh, I dig the simplicity, sounds like another viable approach.
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Re: Salary Floor Should NOT Apply to Pre-Season...Currently

PostSun Jun 19, 2022 3:31 pm

But even though the object of the rule is well intended... the results are catastrophic...

Here's an example...

In a league where the salary cap is 80M$... the minimum cap will be 72M$...

So, you'll never be able to drop any player whose salary is over 8M$...

Think about it...
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Re: Salary Floor Should NOT Apply to Pre-Season...Currently

PostSun Jun 19, 2022 3:34 pm

chaberlal wrote:There... to make sure everyone understands, here are the rosters of Alphabet League 2...

https://365.strat-o-matic.com/league/460812

My team is Majestic Maulers, but look at Holland Homers who's also stuffed...

Charles/chaberlal


In Alphabet League 2, Holland Homers have only 17 players on their roster and cannot make any moves either...

:o :roll:
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Re: Salary Floor Should NOT Apply to Pre-Season...Currently

PostSun Jun 19, 2022 3:36 pm

chaberlal wrote:
chaberlal wrote:There... to make sure everyone understands, here are the rosters of Alphabet League 2...

https://365.strat-o-matic.com/league/460812

My team is Majestic Maulers, but look at Holland Homers who's also stuffed...

Charles/chaberlal


In Alphabet League 2, Holland Homers have only 17 players on their roster and cannot make any moves either...

:o :roll:

Dear lord, how were they able to drop below the roster requirements in the first place? How did Strat manage to screw this up so comprehensively????
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Re: Salary Floor Should NOT Apply to Pre-Season...Currently

PostSun Jun 19, 2022 6:19 pm

Is anyone in contact with SOM about this horrific blunder? Sooooo stupid.

If we were to use archaic baseball slag, this would be "SOM's Boner." Or as the English would say, what a muck up!
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Re: Salary Floor Should NOT Apply to Pre-Season...Currently

PostSun Jun 19, 2022 8:05 pm

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Re: Salary Floor Should NOT Apply to Pre-Season...Currently

PostSun Jun 19, 2022 9:55 pm

Hack Wilson wrote:Is anyone in contact with SOM about this horrific blunder? Sooooo stupid.

If we were to use archaic baseball slag, this would be "SOM's Boner." Or as the English would say, what a muck up!


As mentioned, I got a quick reply from SOM saying they'd fixed the bug. "Thanks for your email! We've changed it so that the Salary Floor restriction no longer applies during the preseason." I'm glad they fixed it so fast, but am not sure how they let it happen in the first place.
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Re: Update: SOM says Pre-Season Salary Floor bug will be fix

PostSun Jun 19, 2022 10:47 pm

Thank you, Outta Leftfield, it's appreciated. Hard to keep up with what SOM knows and is doing. Egads, but that's good news. I'll see it and then believe it, let's trust and verify.
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