Proof the Game is Rigged (Evidence Here)

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Proof the Game is Rigged (Evidence Here)

PostSun Sep 04, 2022 11:48 am

Here is photo evidence that the game is rigged. George Sisler apparently has two different cards, one of which is a secret card called G.Mists. I'm going up against a strong player and magically, G.Mists bats and scores a run. I really hope you guys can understand and accept that this is NOT normal. I am a video game developer, as I have stated, and this is proof of at least one (and likely many more) players having multiple cards. This is almost certainly how Strat controls the stats and outcomes of the games.

Picture 1: G.Mists, a player that doesn't exist, scores a run.
https://postimg.cc/62QpsjBW

Picture 2: This is what my opponent had in his replay. Notice how the card has changed to Sisler after I made the previous thread.
https://postimg.cc/4mDNFqs6

Picture 3: Now see how the visual has changed for me, again, after I made the previous thread.
https://postimg.cc/tYtmLVHB

Now, I have talked about exercising critical thinking and was mocked. I have been called a conspiracy theorist. I have been disrespected and treated like an idiot. I have been asked for proof. Here it is. Are you going to accept it for what it is? Strat 100% obviously is not running a fair and honest game and they're covering their tracks. Whether you like me or not, you deserve better. We deserve better. This is just a GAME, for crying out loud. Why do they need to taint the results?
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Re: Proof the Game is Rigged (Evidence Here)

PostSun Sep 04, 2022 12:17 pm

Photoshop much Backfire?

Yes,I am mocking you. To think that a small family run business that clearly struggles to keep their site up to provide cash flow would pay this amount of attention to you is both ludicrous and the height of hubris.
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Re: Proof the Game is Rigged (Evidence Here)

PostSun Sep 04, 2022 1:12 pm

djmacb wrote:Photoshop much Backfire?

Yes,I am mocking you. To think that a small family run business that clearly struggles to keep their site up to provide cash flow would pay this amount of attention to you is both ludicrous and the height of hubris.


I'm not sure if you're being serious about photoshop but I don't know how to edit photos beyond adding a filter or cropping. In case anyone asks why the first picture has different coloring, it's because it's a screenshot taken past midnight and I use a browser extension to protect my eyes from blue light. If I did know how to doctor photos you would think I would have at least made the background white. This also has nothing to do with me, I was even the one that scored the run. I just want the results to be fair or iff they aren't going to be fair, I'd at least like to have that be public knowledge.

People have asked for proof, gotten it, and it's met with silence and skepticism. I'm not the bad guy here. I'm paying for my credits, supporting the game, fighting for change, and hoping the company will succeed. Leagues should be filling up rapidly but it's too expensive and weird stuff continues to happen. I would encourage you all to watch all (if you have time) the play-by-plays from the games from last night to see if you can spot any player cards that don't exist. I have searched high and low and found no reference anywhere of G.Mists. It very clearly looks like a code name as there is no such player. But I'm sure this is just a dead-end-road as nobody is going to take me seriously. The truth is that it DID happen. I saw it with my own two eyes.
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Re: Proof the Game is Rigged (Evidence Here)

PostSun Sep 04, 2022 1:16 pm

Backfire wrote: But I'm sure this is just a dead-end-road as nobody is going to take me seriously.

One of the few things you've posted that I agree with.
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Re: Proof the Game is Rigged (Evidence Here)

PostSun Sep 04, 2022 1:44 pm

So what exactly do you think happened? If I understand correctly, there is a mystery second Sisler card with the name of G Mists, and it was used in place of the regular Sisler card? The roll was off the pitchers card so it didnt make a difference but for the first time ever it displayed the wrong card name. You pointed it out on the boards so the company went back and corrected the line by line description of this one game (on a Sunday morning no less)? And this is all done because there are second cards hidden away so they can manipulate game outcomes for..."reasons"?

Look, I get that weird stuff happens, but this is not evidence of a second card in any way. I went back and looked at the game and watched the live play by play. It showed up as Sisler. And it showed up as Sisler when I looked at it a second time. It showed up as Sisler in the Play by Play.

At least to me, it seems much more likely that this was a lookup error or some other glitch in the code that caused a mistake to occur in the displayed last name 1 time. But evidence of a batch of hidden cards? I am highly unconvinced.

Are you familiar with Occam's Razor and Hanlon's Razor? Those seem to be quite relevant to this situation.
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Re: Proof the Game is Rigged (Evidence Here)

PostSun Sep 04, 2022 1:49 pm

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Re: Proof the Game is Rigged (Evidence Here)

PostSun Sep 04, 2022 1:58 pm

@chris Precisely what happened is harder to pin down. What we do know though is that a card exists under the display name of G.Mists. This could be for a variety of reasons: to increase realism by increasing or decreasing performance, to prevent anomalies from making the game look silly (such as extreme record-breaking), to prevent skilled managers from having too strong of records or vice versa, etc.

Going a step further, this could mean that all players have one or more extra cards (seems like a LOT of extra work though) or there could be one or more cards that are used by a variety of players for a variety of reasons. Without having access to the code all I can really do is list off possibilities. I have never seen this happen before. I came back to the game losing and very rusty, and new to the set so I have been watching the play by play for all my games to help get myself up to speed and improve my results. At first I assumed it must be an error as there could be a G.Mists card that I hadn't seen (not a knowledgeable baseball fan at all), but I found out that there was no player with the surname Mists ever, from what I could tell. So I concluded it must be a code name, for some reason.

Interesting to note that this happened on the first night after the site outage. It sounds to me like they were working on the game and something went terribly wrong, causing it to be inoperable. This happens all the time with games and can take real expertise to fix in some cases. Even a very small error can break a game. It is particularly common when working with parts of the code that are seldom touched and thus the employees have less experience with.

About this being a glitch, it absolutely was a glitch of some kind but it is proof that the card exists. There is no way for a card to randomly glitch out and show up as another name, especially such a specific and normal sounding one. For some reason, the card was made intentionally and plays a part in the game. It is very possible there are more such cards.

One last piece of information is that typically in such games there is a file name and a display name. So for example, Sisler's card could read as r_1B_superstar_155_ "George Sisler". The part in quotes is the display name. So in this case, the 155 would mean that Sisler is the 155th card that was made, so adding a new card would be as simple as increasing the number and adding a new display name. This is another part of why I believe G.Mists 100% exists as a card.
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Re: Proof the Game is Rigged (Evidence Here)

PostSun Sep 04, 2022 1:58 pm

Backfire wrote:I'm not sure if you're being serious about photoshop but I don't know how to edit photos beyond adding a filter or cropping.

You must develop some very marketable video games then--yet another bit of doublespeak surrounding your expertise and your naivete, depending on the conversation.

Sorry but this "evidence" is not an event that is reproducible by anyone and is no longer available--especially by your opponent.
You didn't accept supported and objective evidence from anyone else in multiple conversations using repeatable methodology, yet you want blind faith now on extrapolating your image to infer all the prior things you have asserted without proof or with clearly contrary evidence.

So now this has become a sociopathic exercise of sorts. Note that I did consider the posts initially before realizing this was not about expanding our understanding. The conversation has meandered along the "butwhataboutism" river.

djmacb makes the most logical assertion re: the hubris. Granted, this part is subjective, but those of us who have known this enterprise for decades know--as factually as your phantom image is to you--that the other-worldly Glen Head attention you attribute to you, and the accumen you attribute to/by this family operation is the least likely and most complex of all possible explanations.

No more hamster wheel, for me at least.
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Re: Proof the Game is Rigged (Evidence Here)

PostSun Sep 04, 2022 2:03 pm

So are you saying that every time a video game glitches, its not a glitch but evidence that there is a second video game built in the system to manipulate outcomes?
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Re: Proof the Game is Rigged (Evidence Here)

PostSun Sep 04, 2022 2:12 pm

@FrankieT I will give you a quick reply. I'm not an artist, we have a team of artists that handles that aspect of the game. We each have different roles. I'm a writer, community manager, and developer, for quality assurance, and I handle the business side to an extent. We are a small company although the scope of the game is fairly large.

I have posted a picture so if you don't want to believe it actually happened, there isn't anything I can do about it. Several of you have been against me from the beginning so it's not at all surprising to see it continue here. Saying the evidence is not reproducible is entirely irrelevant. Now if Strat would actually step in and speak on the issue perhaps we would get somewhere and you might see that I am telling the truth. This is, after all, their website and their code, and their game. G.Mists is in their code right now.

@chris I'm saying that the card G.Mists 100% exists. If I had to guess, Strat was working with the code and something disastrous happened, resulting in the outage. Glitches almost always occur due to some kind of problem with the code as written. It can be a conflict (two parts of the code don't cooperate), it can be a typo (very common), or otherwise broken code that may not spring up until much later if the instance is unlikely to happen often.

Let's face it, Strat said that home runs were not being stifled and we had data to prove otherwise. They admitted it was an accident and turned off the setting. Then more recently something sprang up, or so I heard, about baseline fielding (or something like that) that was turned on, discovered, and turned off. Stuff like this isn't exactly new around here and it's why people get frustrated and quit the game or lose their temper. I am not sure what to do now because I had hoped that all my speculation might be wrong but now I have seen G.Mists and have no explanation. I have emailed Strat but I doubt they will reply to me. For the record, my first emails were very cordial and non-accusatory (harmless). But now I am eager to have them speak on what is going on publicly. G.Mists needs to be explained. I'd even rather see them publicly call me a liar so I can just quit rather than have them remain silent.

Edit: One last thing, in case you were wondering: Strat should be able to edit a player name after a game has been played in a minute or less. It's a fairly simple text edit.
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