Strat-O-Matic Baseball 365

I was looking at one of my recently completed teams today and noticed that while my team was credited on the league Fielding Chart with 162 total DPs and 150 GIDP, my first baseman, Lou Gehrig, was credited with a total of 163 DPs--one more than my team total.

So how could this happen? Ironman Lou of course played every inning of every game, so he'd get credited with every DP involving 1B. But these DPs would be mostly the GIDPs. So what about the 13 none GIDPs?

My OFs had 23 assists, some of them likely DPs when a runner tried to tag up on a flyout and advance. OF assists can come at any base. It seems unlikely that all of them occured at 1B.

LoMax DPs could happen at any base, too, not just first. Again, why does Gehrig seem to get credit for every one of my non-GIDP?

And even if every one of my 162 DP actually involved 1B, why does Gehrig, at 163, have 1 more DP than the entire team?

Not that this matters much in the grand scheme of things, but I'm wondering how it's even possible. Could SOM be miscounting DPs? I've never had a deep grasp of the SOM Super Advanced fielding rules. Maybe therein lurks the secret?

I wouldn't be surprised but that the Chinese spy balloon had something to do with that.
Was it recently?
How long was the dang balloon floating across the U.S. heartland disrupting all sorts of everyday events?
Could have just as easily disrupted HAL's intricate record keeping.
You know.......you just never know.

You might have sometihng there!

Musial6 wrote:I wouldn't be surprised but that the Chinese spy balloon had something to do with that.
Was it recently?
How long was the dang balloon floating across the U.S. heartland disrupting all sorts of everyday events?
Could have just as easily disrupted HAL's intricate record keeping.
You know.......you just never know.

I agree.

Ballons aside , what about an unassisted double play by Lou.

1787 wrote:Ballons aside , what about an unassisted double play by Lou.

Lou could have pulled off an unassisted DP. That would almost have to mean than he got credited twice for the same DP? A further implicatio of THAT would be that a 2B serving as pivot man on a DP might be credited twice? Lots of curious, arcane questions here.

Outta Leftfield wrote:

1787 wrote:Ballons aside , what about an unassisted double play by Lou.

Lou could have pulled off an unassisted DP. That would almost have to mean than he got credited twice for the same DP? A further implicatio of THAT would be that a 2B serving as pivot man on a DP might be credited twice? Lots of curious, arcane questions here.

The pivot man gets a putout and an assist, which may skew a total somewhere, but not in Gehrig's case here, even though a 3-6-3 DP has the first baseman double dipping an assist and putout as well as the SS.
Not sure where I was going with that, but there it is.

Outta Leftfield wrote:I was looking at one of my recently completed teams today and noticed that while my team was credited on the league Fielding Chart with 162 total DPs and 150 GIDP, my first baseman, Lou Gehrig, was credited with a total of 163 DPs--one more than my team total.

So how could this happen? Ironman Lou of course played every inning of every game, so he'd get credited with every DP involving 1B. But these DPs would be mostly the GIDPs. So what about the 13 none GIDPs?

My OFs had 23 assists, some of them likely DPs when a runner tried to tag up on a flyout and advance. OF assists can come at any base. It seems unlikely that all of them occured at 1B.

LoMax DPs could happen at any base, too, not just first. Again, why does Gehrig seem to get credit for every one of my non-GIDP?

And even if every one of my 162 DP actually involved 1B, why does Gehrig, at 163, have 1 more DP than the entire team?

Not that this matters much in the grand scheme of things, but I'm wondering how it's even possible. Could SOM be miscounting DPs? I've never had a deep grasp of the SOM Super Advanced fielding rules. Maybe therein lurks the secret?

Did you have a triple play?

ScumbyJr wrote:
Did you have a triple play?

Very possibly, but I don't know how to find out. This stat doesn't appear to be tracked by SOM. So I wondered, "How common are triple plays in actual baseball." I figured that SOM's triple plays might at least to some degree model TPs as they result in MLB.

I looked at the wikipedia article "Triple plays," and it turns out that triple plays aren't common at all. According to wiki, there have been 876 triple plays in the entire history of baseball since 1876. That averages about five per season.

So if SOM is anything like real baseball, my team might have produced one TP in this particular season, or maybe not. And then we have the question: would HAL credit Gehrig with 2 DPs if he performed a triple play. At this point, it's hard to say.

Anyway, I found it interesting to learn just how rare triple plays actually are. As wikipedia puts it:

They depend on a combination of two factors, which are themselves uncommon:

First, there must be at least two baserunners, and no outs. From analysis of all MLB games from 2011 to 2013, only 1.51% of at bats occur in such a scenario.[2] By comparison, 27.06% of at bats occur with at least one baserunner and fewer than two outs,[2] the scenario where a double play is possible.
Second, activity must occur during the play that enables the defense to make three outs. Common plays, such as the batter striking out or hitting a fly ball, do not normally provide an opportunity for a triple play. A ball hit sharply and directly to an infielder, who then takes very quick or unanticipated action, as well as confusion or mistakes by the baserunners is usually needed.