Shotei Otahni

I noticed Otahni was nominated for the next ATG card add. I'm curious how a two-way player is going to be able to both and hit in this game. I'd love to see him, but before we have the opportunity to vote for him, I'd like to know how it is in the 20XX online game. I play ATG only, can anyone who plays both please fill the rest of us in? Thanks.

I'd post this on the ATG card discussion forum, but it wouldn't get much notice there buried down the middle of the front page.

From the 20XX rules:

Shohei Ohtani: 2021 Season, 2022 Baseball Daily, and beyond

For the first time in Baseball 365, Shohei Ohtani is able to both pitch and hit in the same game using his 2 individual pitching and hitting cards. Previously, in the 2018 season and 2021 Baseball Daily player sets, he had 2 different cards but you could only own one of them at a time. Now, he is one single player that comes with both cards that simulates the double threat he is in real life.

To draft him in an Auto List Draft league, you would list him once on your draft list, in either your Pitchers or Hitters section, but not both. Where you list him dictates the kind of replacement you would receive if you lose out on him in the Auto Draft. For example, if you add his pitching card to your draft list and another team beats you to him in the Auto Draft, you would receive a starting pitcher as a replacement. If you add his hitting card and lose out on him, you would receive a position player as a replacement.

2021 Season only:

In a DH league, you may start him at DH in your lineups, and in games where he is also the starting pitcher, he will hit for himself in that spot (although, like in real life, it would be considered the pitcher's spot and you would play without the DH for that game. When a relief pitcher replaces him on the mound, that pitcher replaces him in the lineup).

2022 Baseball Daily and the future:

In a DH league, you may start him at DH in your lineups, and in games where he is also the starting pitcher, he is able to stay in the lineup at DH even if a relief pitcher replaces him on the mound, thanks to the "Shohei Ohtani Rule" of 2022.

In a non-DH league, you may not put him in your starting lineups as he is not rated at any field position. He would bat 9th using his own hitting card when he pitches, but the computer may move him higher if your lineup is partially blank or in the event of injuries.

Any injury that he suffers at the plate will keep him off the mound for the same number of days, and vice versa. Any limit on the maximum length of a given injury would be based on his real-life AB+BB if it's at the plate, or his real-life IP if it's on the mound. Therefore, in the 2021 season set:

- In a league using the Standard Injury System (most common), his 600+ real-life AB+BB limits his injuries at the plate to 3 additional days, but on the mound he didn't have enough real-life IP to limit him from suffering a possible maximum injury of 15 additional days.
- In a league using the Super-Advanced Injury System (rare), his 600+ real-life AB+BB limits his injuries at the plate to 3 additional days, and on the mound his 20+ real-life starts limit his injuries on the mound to 30 additional days.

Great, very informative, thanks!

Honestly I wouldn't mind if they just added him like the rest of the 2-way players in the set, split into a hitting card and a pitching card. Ohtani is cool but adding 2-way players means re-writing a lot of code, for me and presumably for Strat. Strat if you're feeling lazy and want to split him into two cards, just know there are lazy players here as well who will support your laziness!

For whatever it's worth, my expectation is that Ohtani would be added to ATG with two separate cards, of which you can only use one. I doubt they are going to put the 'Ohtani logic' in ATG.

Just want to bump this up the message board. Ohtani’s 2021 was voted in already , will probably be part of the next card add whenever that is. Will make finding this easier

Would love to see either the 1918 or 1919 two-way Babe Ruth offered in ATG9. Not at the all-around Ohtani level ('19 wasn't exactly a good pitching year for the Bambino, each year has its pros and cons, maybe '18 is actually better), but check out his stats:

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/r/ruthba01.shtml

19 would give him a Boston hitting card too. Would be a nice addition either way