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Belanger

PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2023 9:54 am
by CassidyGT
Can we get a 1969 Mark Belanger card? Or even 1976? His two cards are awful.

Re: Belanger

PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2023 1:29 pm
by egvrich
Or even 1971 for that matter:

https://www.baseball-reference.com/play ... ma01.shtml

Useless cards of a pretty good (for the era anyways) 1960's & 1970's SS.

Re: Belanger

PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2023 3:20 pm
by scorehouse
69-his highest BA year but less than 600 PA's and an uncharacteristic 24 errors. also very few extra base hits. 76=back down to 14 errors with just a little less pop at the plate. still under 600 PA's. 69card is viewable in the 60's set. as expected, Strat left out his 76 year in the 70's mystery set. interesting is in the 60's range is 2 while in the 70's its down to 1. new card voters don't seem to care about non hitting SS. I've nominated the 1990 Ripken card with a 2/3 fielding, the last 3 new card voting sessions and he's never come close? and that card year, he had over 20 doubles and 20 HR's and is Iron Man Cal bullet proof. so I'd be surprised if Belanger would get the votes.

Re: Belanger

PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2023 2:52 pm
by FrankieT
Interesting thought...and I do not disagree.
I think it is where reducing baseball to only a stats-based predictive approach falls flat sometimes. The missing link.
Stats are descriptive, but not nearly as predictive.

Belanger had lots of real world value not captured by any stat unless we were to look back and find a way to fit a correlation stat to his performance and added it as a new index. It is the chicken and egg of sabre-ology.