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I guess clutch is highly overrated

PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2024 1:44 pm
by Sweet Swinging 26
At least with this team:

https://365.strat-o-matic.com/team/misc/1759040

1, yep 1, clutch situation in 33 games thus far this season. WOW.

Re: I guess clutch is highly overrated

PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2024 2:30 pm
by WeatherNut
Here is a team from back in the day that did pretty well with clutch.

https://365.strat-o-matic.com/team/806372

They had 23 total clutch chances as a team.

Re: I guess clutch is highly overrated

PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2024 11:06 am
by jjii66
When I first started playing, I was obsessed with clutch. But I soon realized how seldom it comes into play, and I haven't paid attention to it since.

Re: I guess clutch is highly overrated

PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2024 12:14 am
by Bunze0
Recently built a clutch team, it failed miserably. Connor was terrible. Sanguillen did well

Re: I guess clutch is highly overrated

PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2024 9:08 am
by Sweet Swinging 26
39 games in ... Still 1 clutch opp.

Re: I guess clutch is highly overrated

PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2024 10:12 am
by DANMARTINELLI
The team's OBP is only .314 for the link you posted. Guys have to get on base for their to be clutch :) In any case I hope the rest of the season goes well and keep us posted on your end results. I for one would be interested to know. Finally, I have had some success with the 1908 Mike Donlin card that has several clutch chances. Cheers!

Re: I guess clutch is highly overrated

PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2024 1:13 pm
by southpawcom
Strat-O-Matic would do well by us to include a checkbox toggle on all hitter cards that would reflect on the colorful bar graphs the effect of the players' clutch hitting abilities. For the (agreed) extremely limited occasions where their clutch abilities matter.

Trivia: Which card offers the most clutch hitting chances? I believe it would be '86 Joel Skinner. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/41131/1986/1/292 Not a whole lot more than that there to recommend it for your roster, however ;)

Re: I guess clutch is highly overrated

PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2024 6:42 pm
by bkeat23
southpawcom wrote:Strat-O-Matic would do well by us to include a checkbox toggle on all hitter cards that would reflect on the colorful bar graphs the effect of the players' clutch hitting abilities. For the (agreed) extremely limited occasions where their clutch abilities matter.

Trivia: Which card offers the most clutch hitting chances? I believe it would be '86 Joel Skinner. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/41131/1986/1/292 Not a whole lot more than that there to recommend it for your roster, however ;)

If you want to go for a zero stolen base team, he's at the top of the list. 1-9 running is like a normal person with a piano stuck in his back pocket.

Re: I guess clutch is highly overrated

PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2024 10:59 pm
by FrankieT
Biggest impact posi or neg clutch has is on intentional walks. And that can be significant. If you start watching the PbP, you will see how this can be significant in critical situations, especially when you go with a studs and scrubs approach.

The AI uses clutch to determine whether to walk or pitch. It calculates, based on the game situation, what the next batter's modified chances are by putting the first guy on base.

So I'd say neg clutch almost matters more in terms of impact

It happens ALOT--it may not hit the clutch roll on the card but the effect is there BEFORE the roll

As a result, clutch can be more important to have for a bottom half of order hitter

Re: I guess clutch is highly overrated

PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2024 7:51 pm
by Backfire
I think clutch is pretty important but it's effects are difficult to analyze over a smaller sample size IMO. It is discouraging to pay up for a high clutch team, only to have it not work out. But the absence of negative clutch has a lot of value, because many games can be lost due to negative clutch as it is extremely common. The effects are exacerbated in high ballpark singles leagues. Positive clutch often doesn't look great once a season ends but it's still a lot better than negative clutch. I also think that positive clutch, while uncommon, does not seem to add a lot to the price of a hitter. I could be wrong.