Strat-O-Matic Baseball 365

Shohei Ohtani marked spirits forever when he became the first ever to post a 50/50 season...

And mind you... he has a sense of drama...

6/6... 3 HRs... 10 RBIs...

WOW !!!

I saw something that he was the first person to ever…..

Have 6 hits in a game
Have 5 extra base hits in a game
Have 10 rbi in a game
Have 2 stolen bases in a game
And score 4 runs in a game

For a career…… he did all of that in one game yesterday lol. Insane

Not to mention the Dodgers franchise record for home runs in a season

Only player ever to have 3 Homeruns and 2 stolen bases in a game

Don't get me wrong - this is really something. Especially the single game stat line.

Two thoughts...

If not for the new rules (larger bags, limited pitcher throws to first), I wonder how many he would have stolen with the old rules - 30? But given no one in history has ever done 50/25 before, still pretty awesome.

If he ends 51/51, is that really that much more impressive than Acuna's 41/73?

Or, if you buy him only getting 50/30 with the old rules, better than...
Bonds 73/13
Ruth 59/17
A Rod 54/24
Griffey Jr 56/20

Mattw0909 wrote:I saw something that he was the first person to ever…..

Have 6 hits in a game
Have 5 extra base hits in a game
Have 10 rbi in a game
Have 2 stolen bases in a game
And score 4 runs in a game

For a career…… he did all of that in one game yesterday lol. Insane

If I could do that in a week, I'd be making a lot of money.
Maybe even a plaque in Cooperstown. Low BA, decent slugging. Without actually doing math, 230-ish RBI?

Courtneylant wrote:Don't get me wrong - this is really something. Especially the single game stat line.

Two thoughts...

If not for the new rules (larger bags, limited pitcher throws to first), I wonder how many he would have stolen with the old rules - 30? But given no one in history has ever done 50/25 before, still pretty awesome.

If he ends 51/51, is that really that much more impressive than Acuna's 41/73?

Or, if you buy him only getting 50/30 with the old rules, better than...
Bonds 73/13
Ruth 59/17
A Rod 54/24
Griffey Jr 56/20

Well, if you're gonna nitpick
Bonds/ aRod did it with steroids
Ruth did it with all whites
Griffey did it in the Kingdome

Just sayin'

True!

Ruth did it with all white isn't the same

The level of pitching in Negro Leagues was far behind the level of hitting, and certainly across the board, not on par with MLB pitching.....any peruse of record books (Negro and MLB) shows that

especially if you look not only at Negro League pitching records, but also MLB hitters whose careers spanned integration....

(ie. Musial, Williams, etc.).....their stats didn't decrease or decline after black pitchers entered the league

no racism or exclusion is fair at anytime, anywhere, in any walk of life

but punishing or belittling MLB hitters pre-integration is not only unfair to them (they didn't make the rules), but also isn't supported by statistical evidence....

lastly, this isn't meant to sound racist, just factual....there are only 2 black pitchers voted in the HOF since integration....Gibson and Jenkins...8 more Negro league pitchers were added (who never faced MLB hitters).....

while doubt there is a direct connection, where there's smoke, there's fire.....certainly, the number of African American position players in the HOF is disproportionate to the # of HOF black pitchers....why only God could say

I do however, agree with your comment about any steroids user(s)....they took themselves out of consideration for anything, once they decided to cheat

however, Griffey's kingdome wasn't any more or less impactful than ruth's yankee stadium, or any other hitter's home park that favored offense.....

I also don't think Ohtani would have as low as 30 sb this year.....he didn't pitch, and could concentrate solely on offense (even as rehabbing his arm), and this season, all the stars aligned for him......I could agree that he probably had more due to new rules, but i'd give him at least 40, based on the "stars aligning" this season,

regardless, a magical season we all were fortunate enough to witness.....as a Dodger fan here, even better ;- )

didn't mean to offend anyone, and certainly any former players...couldn't be prouder as a Dodger fan that Jackie (with Rickey's help, but also credit to others who tried before to integrate and were refused, ie. Veeck, et al), broke the color barrier....

More than half the pitchers from Ruth's era wouldn't make Double A rosters of today.