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reading closer cards

PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2020 11:04 am
by jayhawk81
I have Lee Smith in the 80s and his card shows that he is a C2/N. with the N meaning he can't be used in the closer (or techinically he is instantly fatigued) role. If Lee Smith can't be used as Closer, then?????

what am i missing?

Re: reading closer cards

PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2020 5:40 pm
by coyote303
A rating of C2/N would not make sense. However, his actual rating is R2/N, which simply means he is not used as a closer.

Here's the rule:

Closer Rule

Each reliever is given a second rating next to his Relief Endurance rating which we will refer to as his "Closer Endurance". For example, a pitcher who is rated "relief (2/3) has a Relief Endurance of 2 and a Closer Endurance of 3. The Closer Endurance rating is a measure of how many outs a pitcher can maintain his effectiveness in "Closer situations". The rating ranges between 0 and 6, or "N" which means he is not used as a closer.

Re: reading closer cards

PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2020 7:10 pm
by jayhawk81
Thanks, I get the rule, just have no idea how LEE SMITH shouldn't be used as a closer.

That's like saying you don't want the ball in Michael Jordans' hands with the game on the line

Re: reading closer cards

PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 1:22 am
by coyote303
Wow, you're right. He averaged over 30 saves in his five SOM 80s seasons. That makes zero sense, and it must be a mistake.

However, I do have a question since I never played the 80s set: Do they use the closer rule? (The 60s and 70s don't.) If not, then it doesn't matter. If it does, the SOM has some serious explaining to do!

https://www.baseball-reference.com/play ... le02.shtml

Re: reading closer cards

PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 1:24 am
by coyote303
I'm going to answer my own question from my previous post...

It looks like all relievers have the /N rating, so certainly the 80s set isn't using the closer rules.

Re: reading closer cards

PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 7:28 am
by jayhawk81
thank you