Fantasim?

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PJ Axelsson

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Fantasim?

PostFri Oct 05, 2012 11:05 am

I can do this for eternity...
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Re: Fantasim?

PostFri Oct 05, 2012 4:31 pm

Q: Is FantaSim coming back?
A: We have talked about it and will consider working on it in the future. However due to its revenue history relative to its developmental costs, it does not fit into our financial plans for the immediate term
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Re: Fantasim?

PostWed Oct 10, 2012 3:55 pm

Follow up question:

Will they issue a refund for the teams in limbo?
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Re: Fantasim?

PostWed Oct 10, 2012 4:00 pm

Development costs? What does that mean? I'm assuming they've worked out the transition bugs and won't spend another 2 months migrating the game over to this platform.

They fired up all the incarnations of the other games, I have a hard time imagining more people play 2007 or 1999 or ATG3v2 than fantasim.

Very frustrated... :(
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Re: Fantasim?????????????

PostSun Oct 14, 2012 7:20 pm

For whatever it's worth, bernieh has never liked fantasim, and openly expressed so on several forums. This was just the chance he was looking for to remove the best strat game ever. Probably took an extra 3 mins. out of his tough workday.
He's never offered my credits back from the last league champs, or the one where he wouldn't let us play out the season with 11 teams.
bernie has been very disappointing in the past, but never to this magnitude. Why he choose to dislike the best format of strat baffles myself and others. bernie being bernie!!!!!!!!!!!



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Re: Fantasim?

PostSun Oct 14, 2012 7:26 pm

Mr Baseball World wrote:
Q: Is FantaSim coming back?
A: We have talked about it and will consider working on it in the future. However due to its revenue history relative to its developmental costs, it does not fit into our financial plans for the immediate term


bernie lied to us over a yr. ago, why should he be honest now???????

INTEGRITY & HONESTY, know what we mean bernie.
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Re: Fantasim?

PostMon Oct 15, 2012 8:40 pm

Really, Scraps? No one knows if Bernie still works for SOM, and even if he does, it isn't his decision whether Fantasim comes back. Feel free to disagree with SOM's decision, but to disparage someone's integrity is uncalled for.
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Re: Fantasim?

PostMon Oct 15, 2012 10:21 pm

This concept really shouldn't be scrapped. There are many ways to improve the game, and the core concept is still something that most resembles managing a team. I understand the disconnect with the pure strat players, who want total transparency with results and the power to make decisions with the cards in advance, but this game should and can appeal to the larger world of roto-fantasy baseball players.

It boggles my mind why this can't work. :?
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Re: Fantasim?

PostWed Oct 17, 2012 1:18 pm

I confess total ignorance about Fantasim. PJ, could you explain the basic concept? Also, what exactly is a Fantasim card? I know they are panned by much of the ATG6 community, which might not be helping your cause.
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Re: Fantasim?

PostThu Oct 18, 2012 4:45 pm

The cards are not the super advanced cards, just the basic cards, so there is a degree of realism lost. The players tend to way overperform.

The game is a mystery card game. You are assigned one of 5 possible years for each player but you don't know which one it is. Each player has a wide range of good to bad seasons, so you have to actually study his performance to try to determine if he's worth keeping or not. You can trade players and when you do, the years will randomly shuffle to one of the 5 years (it could be the same bad one or it could be a new one).

This is what makes this game so good. It's like real baseball in that you can have a player underperforming and swap with another owner and all of a sudden he catches fire (ala Manny going to the Dodgers a few years back).

It also keeps you in the hunt at all times because if you are stuck with a bunch of bad seasons, there is value to other owners in those cards and they will want to take them off your hands in hopes of getting good years from them.

The game is set up as a rotisserie game, where the champion has accumulated the most points in the 10 roto categories (runs, rbis, homers, batting average, steals, wins, saves, strikeouts, era, whip). I personally don't like this so much, I prefer to make a winning team rather than chasing individual stats, but winning tends to go hand in hand with the roto stuff.


That's a quick summary, I'm sure others can add to it. The thing that I love so much is the idea of managing players based upon what they do, not based upon the percentages that are fixed. Trying to decide whether to wait out a slow start or move your top priced hitter, getting an amazing season out of a super cheap player who happens to have one good year out of 5 on his card, that sort of stuff.
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