What A Stupid Feature

Now available to all teams (with the exception of those playing with Mystery Card sets like The '70s Game, Back to the '80s, and Back to the '90s*) are reverse lineups - two extra lineups that you may set to be used when facing reverse LHSP's and reverse RHSP's.

Since most pitchers are normally more effective when facing like-handed batters (e.g. lefties are usually better against lefties), a "reverse" pitcher is defined to be a pitcher who is more effective against opposing-handed batters (e.g. a lefty who is better against righties). In the Strat-O-Matic context, a reverse LHSP is a lefty with a balance of 1R-9R, and a reverse RHSP is a righty with a balance of 1L-9L.

You'll find these 2 new lineups right underneath your existing default lineups vs. L and R (via the Your Team->Set Your Lineups menu item). Note that you don't have to touch these new reverse lineups if you don't want to; if you leave them empty, nothing would change with how your team is managed.

Note: These new reverse lineups will begin taking effect for the games of Friday night, Dec. 21. Until then, you may prepare these lineups for your team(s), but they will have no effect on games played.

* - This new feature is not available for Mystery Card sets because its usage would give away too many clues towards the identity of players' Mystery Cards.

-John
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This takes out more strategy while making these type of pitchers all but useless....As stupid as stupid can be.

While apparently not welcomed by all this has been one of the most requested features over the years.

Might note though some notice of this may have been appreciated as this does devalue reverse pitchers just a bit. So one could theorize a person was drafting and making roster decisions last week may have made different choices.

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I see it as a welcome new feature as well. Coming as close as it did to release of ATG7 it is a shame it could not have been packaged as part of that.

Curious how people are thinking. Will this make revers pitchers less desirable? And of coursse flip side easier to get in a draft. Maybe for example I get my favorite reverse pitcher at slot 9 instead of slot 7. Or for most of you will it make no difference on your roster decision making?

Ditto.

Yes Petro, exactly and everything you said in your last response.

Hello Houston??? Come In??? Anyone there???

There seems to be a big difference between 1L and 9L, and 1R and 9R

And we can't choose at which level of 'reverse' we then want our lineup to change.

Unless I'm reading the new feature wrong ,we would have to look and see how much of a -L or -R that night's SP are, and then choose to fill out the lineup card.

So a -1 or -2 I would want to stay with the normal lineup but a -4 or -8 say and I would want to go with the 'reverse' lineup.
Can't do it here...

I remember this being requested often in the past.

I think it will help the more knowledgeable managers. Many guys put to much weight on the rightys with 2L ratings, for example, without actually looking at the cards. I have seen managers bench Bagwell, Aaron and Duffy against rightys in 200mil leagues because of these ratings. Turns out the guys they put in are actually worse than if they just let the above mentioned guys face rightys.

I think in many cases, managers will weaken their lineups trying too hard to out smart the effect of reverse type pitchers.

Hello Houston??? Come In??? Anyone there???

There seems to be a big difference between 1L and 9L, and 1R and 9R

And we can't choose at which level of 'reverse' we then want our lineup to change.

Unless I'm reading the new feature wrong ,we would have to look and see how much of a -L or -R that night's SP are, and then choose to fill out the lineup card.

So a -1 or -2 I would want to stay with the normal lineup but a -4 or -8 say and I would want to go with the 'reverse' lineup.
Can't do it here...

Maybe they need to add a sliding scale for managers to choose when they want their alternative lineup to be used.

I would agree a sliding scale would be helpful since as a general rule I only really care in extreme cases. So using this feature may mean looking at my opponents scheduled pitchers.

Still, this takes us one step closer to what I really want which is per game lineup control.
Real life managers do this type thing all the time. For example Rangers this past year. Against most lefties Moreland sat and a RH bat was used at first base. But occasionally Wash would start Moreland against a lefty. These were obviously leftys Ron felt were not real tough on LH batters and/or were fairly effective against RH hitters. In other words the reverse lefty.

Will it make a huge difference? Doubtful. But it is a step in right direction.

I just set reverse lineups for one of my teams, a rare foray in to the 140 mil neighborhood. I made no changes with respect to who started but altered the batting order just a bit.