Reverse Lineup: CHEER

BIG DIFFERENCE Charlie....They (the athletes where the rules were changed) got PAID TO PLAY...Here we PAY TO PLAY...No different that I pay and draft Willie Mays on my teams...all of a sudden Bernie decides "no more Mays"...You know I don't even care who gets it or not or who disagrees I KNOW it makes a difference, and it shouldn't have affected existing BOUGHT and PAID for teams...Because whether you think it adds a "new" type of strategy or accrues to pitching blah blah blah...it does change what I BOUGHT!!!!

Okay after researching- Hockey you are talking 1929- I dont think that counts- as it was hardly a Pro organization at the time. - nor does a coin toss as a rule in leagues. SO 2 Points moot- Ill give ya american soccer.

The bigger point is still- WHY is it happening in mid-season, and frankly why no community say-so at all.

Are you as willing to accept any change made or is it just select ones that you feel are beneficial?

MLB began this season with only one wild card per team. They changed to have 2 wild cards and made that rule change midseason. But that is irrelevant to whether Strat should have added this feature midseason here. They should not have. But that is just as irrelevant to whether this is a good feature or not going forward.

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they didnt change the rule during the season for that season once it had begun- it was made for future seasons.

In any case we do agree that it shouldnt have happened for pre-existing teams.
Weather its good or not- what rule will they institute next?

As others have said, greater managerial control is a good thing. Not sure how this can be debated.

Introducing it to current leagues was a mistake.

I would love to hear of some examples where this new feature came into play.

Salty made a good point, which shouldn't go unnoticed - there s/b a box where you could set when the reverse would start.
Do you want it on R1L or R3L or R5Ls and above?
That would give you control - setting it up for all, seems arbitrary. There are alot of 1Ls and 2Ls its the 5Ls that I might think of changing my lineup for.

they didnt change the rule during the season for that season once it had begun- it was made for future seasons.

So if the extra wild card change was for future seasons I imagined that playoff game between Texas and Baltimore?

Salty made a good point, which shouldn't go unnoticed - there s/b a box where you could set when the reverse would start.

I agree. This would seem a good next step. Probably should lobby in the wish list forum for this enhancement to the new feature. I don't think this forum is monitored except for excessive unfriendliness.

As others have said, greater managerial control is a good thing. Not sure how this can be debated.

Introducing it to current leagues was a mistake.

I would love to hear of some examples where this new feature came into play.

Changing stadiums after your draft gives more managerial control too, but I'd be against it because not only does it dumb the game down but it's as unrealistic as anything here could be. (imo)

Now having options like allowing Ozzie to bunt more vs lefties makes sense to me...or set a base runner to aggressively steal second, but not third an certainly not home also makes sense to me...Or to more aggressively steal with two outs or some such...or have the pinch hitting feature applied correctly, since guys marked avoid "rarely" get pinch hit for regardless of a 200m roster with half dozen appropriate choices on your bench..... but "reverse line ups" are a made up benefit of seeing strat cards...and have little to nothing to do with real Baseball....

Now having options like allowing Ozzie to bunt more vs lefties makes sense to me

Love this idea.

or set a base runner to aggressively steal second, but not third

Love this idea too.

but "reverse line ups" are a made up benefit of seeing strat cards...and have little to nothing to do with real Baseball....

It has as much to do with real baseball as pitchers being reverse in the first place. Or as much as knowing in advance that TED KLUSZEWSKI will be hitting leftys better this year (2L in 55) than another year (7R in 50) or knowing that Maddux will be hard on righties (4R in 92) or that he will be a reverse pitcher (2L in 94). A large part of Strat is knowing these things in advance. The only reason you know that the 94 Maddux is a reverse pitcher is you have the made up benefit of seeing the strat card. Using any pitcher because they are a reverse pitcher in that year and then complaining because the opponent is able to know the same thing you know and plan a lineup accordingly is a bit hypocritical.

And as I have noted before the Rangers the past 3 years have used statistical trends to in part determine when to go against the normal platoon and start Murphy against a lefty instead of Gentry or Napoli against a righty instead of Moreland or at times even Gentry against a righty. Real life managers use their knowledge of an opponent to make out their lineups on a per game basis. The closer we can get to being able to do that same thing instead of having to set a lineup for 3 games and accept whatever bad matchups that gives us in one or more of the games is a step toward the real thing. And the closer we get to real baseball, or even just the closer we get to face to face control the better the game is.

The reverse lineup setting benefits hitters over pitchers in a game that is already absurdly tilted toward hitting. I'm in a $100 mil league right now where Dutch Leonard and Randy Johnson have +6.00 eras in pitcher parks. Please explain how "real" that is.

I agree that it's nice to have more control, but they need to start making pitcher controls more effective too.