Ratings book and Download???

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Re: Ratings book and Download???

PostFri Jan 11, 2013 3:43 pm

Ninersphan wrote:Here's the link as Start hasn't exactly made it easy to find:

http://www.strat-o-matic.com/products/new-products

Also if you are ordering both the download and the book, do yourself a favor and order them seperatly. I've had nightmare expieriences the last few years when ordering them together. You've been warned. ;)



Understatement. I was thinking it would be available through the front page. That's toooooo easy! :D
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Re: Ratings book and Download???

PostFri Jan 11, 2013 4:03 pm

KEVINEHLE wrote:Thanks for the info. I've never ordered or seen these. Could someone explain the highlights? Is this something that many of you use religiously when building your teams? Is it worth the $13.50 each?



It breaks down the chances and does the counts for the cards. In a nutshell a Strat card has 108 total chances on each side. 108 on the left and 108 on the right. So it gives the total chances, out of 108, for hits, OB etc. It also gives total base count, gbA count ( important for knowing who hits into double plays and who doesn't, you don't want a guy with a 25+ gbA count hitting in your number 2 hole) and a whole host of other information.
For the pitchers same thing, ther are 108 total chances on the pitchers card, it tells you how many of those are hit, walks, strikeouts, etc. It will also tell you which pitchers give up extra base hits.


When I started playing this game, I actually used to do the counts ( for On Base) manualy and write them in pencil on the cards. It helps with making batting orders, tells you who is effectiove against LH or RH pitchers.

Frankly I don't know how anyone who plays this game regularly doesn't use the book and/or download.
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Re: Ratings book and Download???

PostFri Jan 11, 2013 4:06 pm

fredpaii wrote:I'm sure Ninersphan has a better summaization to that question but I think the ratings download gives me a good indication of a players strengths and weaknesses. You get basehit numbers, OBP, and Total bases. And that's against both left and right-handed pitchers. And the same goes for the pitchers. You also get the other stuff such as defense and running, bunting...etc. Shoot, I forgot the HR numbers; both natural and ballpark for each hitter vs. both lefty and righty pitcher.

I still like getting the book becasue that will indicate the injury for each hitter. And of course it's portable.


A benefit of the download is the ability to sort by column.
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Re: Ratings book and Download???

PostFri Jan 11, 2013 4:20 pm

scumby wrote:
fredpaii wrote:I'm sure Ninersphan has a better summaization to that question but I think the ratings download gives me a good indication of a players strengths and weaknesses. You get basehit numbers, OBP, and Total bases. And that's against both left and right-handed pitchers. And the same goes for the pitchers. You also get the other stuff such as defense and running, bunting...etc. Shoot, I forgot the HR numbers; both natural and ballpark for each hitter vs. both lefty and righty pitcher.

I still like getting the book becasue that will indicate the injury for each hitter. And of course it's portable.


A benefit of the download is the ability to sort by column.



And the benefit of the book, I can take it with me into the bathroom ;)

I always get both. Being that I run 4 keeper leagues, I use the download to make my players available lists, I simply manually delete the rosters from the list of all players, delete all the columns with all the card counts and

Viola, instant players available sheets. :D

Oky it's not simple or instant, It takes HOURS for each league, this is one reason why I can't run any more.
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Re: Ratings book and Download???

PostFri Jan 11, 2013 4:22 pm

scumby wrote:
fredpaii wrote:I'm sure Ninersphan has a better summaization to that question but I think the ratings download gives me a good indication of a players strengths and weaknesses. You get basehit numbers, OBP, and Total bases. And that's against both left and right-handed pitchers. And the same goes for the pitchers. You also get the other stuff such as defense and running, bunting...etc. Shoot, I forgot the HR numbers; both natural and ballpark for each hitter vs. both lefty and righty pitcher.

I still like getting the book becasue that will indicate the injury for each hitter. And of course it's portable.


A benefit of the download is the ability to sort by column.



and/or use the conditional formating fetaure of excel to highlight certian attributes.

For instance I will set the On Base count column to chge to red font for everyone over a 35 on base count, makes it reall easy to find viable leadoff hitters. ;)
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Re: Ratings book and Download???

PostFri Jan 11, 2013 4:35 pm

Is anyone a little surprised about Josh Hamilton's natural HR count vs. RHPs? He had 33 bombs in 387 AB's vs. RHPs. And his natural HR count on his card vs RHPs is 8.8.

i thought SOM short-changed him a bit.
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Re: Ratings book and Download???

PostFri Jan 11, 2013 4:46 pm

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Re: Ratings book and Download???

PostFri Jan 11, 2013 4:54 pm

scumby wrote:
fredpaii wrote:Is anyone a little surprised about Josh Hamilton's natural HR count vs. RHPs? He had 33 bombs in 387 AB's vs. RHPs. And his natural HR count on his card vs RHPs is 8.8.

i thought SOM short-changed him a bit.


HR count is 1.3 and only 2 BP chances. Could they have screwed up the L/R ratings?



That's not Hamilton. Hamilton has 5/7 natural HRs/bpHRs vs LHPs and 8.8/8 vs RHPs. I think the lefty numbers are fine. Maybe I'm wrong. I just own Hamilton in a couple Keepers. :D
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Re: Ratings book and Download???

PostFri Jan 11, 2013 4:57 pm

never mind. my mistake
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Re: Ratings book and Download???

PostFri Jan 11, 2013 4:59 pm

scumby wrote:
fredpaii wrote:Is anyone a little surprised about Josh Hamilton's natural HR count vs. RHPs? He had 33 bombs in 387 AB's vs. RHPs. And his natural HR count on his card vs RHPs is 8.8.

i thought SOM short-changed him a bit.


HR count is 1.3 and only 2 BP chances. Could they have screwed up the L/R ratings?



It's possible, mistakes do happen, When they do Strat will post a message on their website. However I don't think you are reading the right player or column

Hamilton hr chances are 5 natural and 7 BP vs LHP and 8.8 natural and 8 BP vs RHP. His home park ball park is a homeer haven, with LH hitter like Hamiton hitting it out 1-15. I'd say they got things right.

You have to remember the cards are desingned as a simulation first. In other words, if you use the cards and replay Texas' season, Hamiltopn should hit the same number of home runs in the sim as he did in real life, give or take a home run or two. So his cards is designed with his ballpark in mind, meaning that 81 games using his card will be in Texas home park with that huge Ball Park number.
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