Second Batter Card Addition Poll

Here is the link for the second batter card addition poll.

http://kwiksurveys.com/s.asp?sid=fe0mocgk3csuux082162

(Don't worry if you see an ad after you have voted: your vote is counted).

Here is the wish list with the stats (rudimentary, I know):

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?authkey=CPr8geoB&key=0AhbUd7KvVuIMdGpJMFpSVnFJTzBkTW14QzBtdjBKOXc&hl=en_US&authkey=CPr8geoB#gid=0

(the color codes are the results of the first poll -- red, top 20%, yellow, next 20%, light blue next 20%, dark blue next 20%, and purple bottom 20%)

Please vote. Maybe our voices will be heard.

Bill

ps if you have any additional names or years, shout them out and I'll add them to the list.

Bump

We’ve had a rash of deaths lately in the baseball community! I started a number of memorial leagues honoring them, even the less known. One of those that I just heard about was my college coach at Howard U. Chuck Hinton. He went to HS with my mom so it came full circle when I attended that college for a few years…from humble beginnings in Rocky Mount, NC…..
I was hoping that maybe some new cards would be considered for ATG, including Chuck Hinton of the 60s Washington Senators. My outstanding list of others include ’77 Rennie Stennett, ’80 Jorge Orta, ’77 Roger Freed, Pepe Frias, ’77 Enos Cabell, Paul Householder, Joel Youngblood, Manny Mota’s best pinch hit year, ’76 or ’77 Lyman Bostock, Gene Richard, Offerman, Mike Ivie, Chris Brown, Larry Biitner, Ken Reitz, Aurelio Rodgriguez, Rick Aurebach, Ron Gant on Braves or Reds, Rex Hudler………Just a thought….

.........Please vote. Maybe our voices will be heard.

Bill

Don't count on it

77 Roger Freed

No way. A career .245 hitter who only played parts of 8 seasons with a total of only 334 games up and hit .398 in only 95 PA.
This was a fluke year totally unworthy of ATG. We have plenty of legitimate greate hitters including many legitimate .400 hitters. We do not need ATG unleashed.

The only way a card like this should be considered is if there are usage limits introduced to prevent a fluke card like this from getting 600 PAs. Might as well bring back the fantasim cards and even add the entire fantasim set as include fluke seasons like this one.

Not sure what year Manny Mota's best pinch hit year might have been but problem with including such a card would be if it is good it will not be used as a pinch hitter. It will be installed somewhere and given 600 PAs. We need to keep ATG for full season players if not the truly great players of history.

How about Mantle 62. He was MVP and according to baseball-reference played both RF and CF. And he won a gold glove.

Bump

Willie Mays 57' -Only player in history with more than 35 HR's and 20 triples in a season.

Johnny Mize 47' -Only player in history to hit more than 50 HR's and strikeout less than 50 times in a season.

Submitted for consideration: Non pitcher MVP winners not in the ATG set.

* unanimous choice
@ No ATG card at all

2012Miguel Cabrera
2012Buster Posey
2011Ryan Braun @
2010Josh Hamilton @
2010Joey Votto
2008Dustin Pedroia @
2006Justin Morneau @
2004Vladimir Guerrero
2004Barry Bonds
2003Barry Bonds
2002Barry Bonds*
2002Miguel Tejada
2000Jeff Kent
1998Juan Gonzalez
1996Ken Caminiti*
1995Mo Vaughn
1995Barry Larkin
1991Terry Pendleton
1990Barry Bonds
1987Andre Dawson
1979Willie Stargell
1978Dave Parker
1976Thurman Munson
1975Fred Lynn
1974Steve Garvey
1973Pete Rose
1967Orlando Cepeda* 3 Cepeda cards but not his unanimous MVP year?
1966Roberto Clemente
1965Willie Mays
1963Elston Howard
1962Mickey Mantle
1960Roger Maris
1960Dick Groat How can we have 4 cards of his and miss his MVP year?
1958Jackie Jensen
1957Mickey Mantle
1958Ernie Banks
1955Roy Campanella
1955Yogi Berra
1954Yogi Berra 3 MVP seasons and somehow we miss all 3.
1951Yogi Berra
1951Roy Campanella
1953Al Rosen* We get 52 and 54, but miss the unanimous mvp season
1952Hank Sauer
1952Bobby Shantz
1945Phil Cavarretta
1943Stan Musial
1942Joe Gordon
1938Jimmie Foxx
1938Ernie Lombardi
1937Charlie Gehringer
1936Lou Gehrig
1935Hank Greenberg*
1935Gabby Hartnett
1934Mickey Cochrane
1933Jimmie Foxx 2 MVP seasons for this one we do not have
1932Chuck Klein
1931Frankie Frisch

The MVP award is sometimes suspect as it can be a popularity contest and eliminates players on bad teams most years.
The Hank Aaron award is supposed to be the best position player without regard to things like how good his team was.

Submitted for consideration: Hank Aaron award winners not in set.

@ No ATG card at all

2012Miguel Cabrera
2012Buster Posey @
2011Matt Kemp @
2011Jose Bautista @
2010Jose Bautista @
2008Kevin Youkilis @
2008Aramis Ramirez @
2007Prince Fielder
2005David Ortiz
2004Manny Ramirez
2004Barry Bonds
2002Barry Bonds
2002Alex Rodriguez
2001Alex Rodriguez
2000Carlos Delgado
1999Manny Ramirez