Pesos de Beisbol Trade Discussion and ???/comments

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Re: Pesos de Beisbol Trade Discussion and WEST loading

PostWed Mar 27, 2013 12:10 pm

I have pitching to offer
looking for some left handed or switch hitting position players
I am awfully right handed right right now
vivan Correcaminos! Andale! Andale!
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Re: Pesos de Beisbol Trade Discussion and WEST loading

PostWed Mar 27, 2013 12:14 pm

OK - Just El Paso left to fill the league. Yippee!

assword is single

edub, Mr. BBW, and Ghost can now load.

EAST - fredpaii/bbw/edub/ghost

CENTRAL - SKorte/jmlopp/viper/dan

WEST - ZIM/KEV/sknsfan/elpaso
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Trade announcement

PostWed Mar 27, 2013 1:07 pm

edub1969 trades:

Sergio Romo

to thisisdan26 for:

Manny Banuelos (Prospect)
2013 2nd Rd prospect pick (#20)


Dan to confirm and he has to drop a player to get back to 40
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Re: Trade announcement

PostWed Mar 27, 2013 2:46 pm

edub1969 wrote:edub1969 trades:

Sergio Romo

to thisisdan26 for:

Manny Banuelos (Prospect)
2013 2nd Rd prospect pick (#20)


Dan to confirm and he has to drop a player to get back to 40


Confirmed and I'll drop Brett Wallace to get back to 40
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Promotion

PostWed Mar 27, 2013 4:33 pm

I am promoting Drew Smyly from prospect status taking me to 40 players on active roster
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Re: Pesos de Beisbol Trade Discussion and WEST loading

PostWed Mar 27, 2013 4:39 pm

Fred,

I'd like to propose a vote if we could on uncapping our number of prospects from 10 to either unlimited or a # we all agree upon. Not sure if guys were aware of that, I know you weren't the original commissioner, I only looked once I started gathering picks. :oops: If not, I understand, just thought I'd throw it out there if it was something we could vote on or not.

Thanks!

Ernie
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Trade announcement

PostWed Mar 27, 2013 5:32 pm

edub1969 trades:

Michael Brantley
Martin Prado
2013 4th Rd prospect pick (#37)

to Sknsfan for:

2013 2nd Round prospect pick (#23)
2014 2nd Rd FA pick (#TBD)
2014 2nd Rd prospect pick (#TBD)

edub1969 promotes Dylan Bundy and Travis d'Arnaud from prospect status bringing roster back to 40 and drops prospect Hak-Ju Lee back into the prospect pool

Sknsfan to confirm
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Re: Pesos de Beisbol Trade Discussion and WEST loading

PostWed Mar 27, 2013 5:42 pm

I'm generally ok with this trade, HOWEVER.....

And I know it's different in every league, and unfortunately I'm not in a place where I have the time to research this, but I thought one could only promote prospects under the following circumstances:

1) During the drop/promotion period prior to the beginning of the draft.

2) If I have recently acquired said prospect via trade and I have room on my 40-man roster.

If I'm wrong, then the trade is solid.

If I'm correct - Edub may want to reavaluate.

I'll hold on my final two picks until this is resolved so no need to wait on me for it.
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Re: Pesos de Beisbol Trade Discussion and WEST loading

PostWed Mar 27, 2013 5:58 pm

Here's how ours reads so I think we're good...this is #5 under "Prospect player rules" section:

5) Prospects can be promoted to the major league roster at any time, provided there is roster space available. Once promoted all prospects lose their prospect status and cannot be demoted back to prospect status.

Thanks for making sure though Ben...good looking out! :)
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Re: Pesos de Beisbol Trade Discussion and WEST loading

PostWed Mar 27, 2013 6:02 pm

edub1969 wrote:Fred,

I'd like to propose a vote if we could on uncapping our number of prospects from 10 to either unlimited or a # we all agree upon. Not sure if guys were aware of that, I know you weren't the original commissioner, I only looked once I started gathering picks. :oops: If not, I understand, just thought I'd throw it out there if it was something we could vote on or not.

Thanks!

Ernie


I think that might be something worth voting on as long as current prospect players listed on people's 40-man rosters (for whatever reason to this time) instead of in the prospect status category (minor league players off the 40-man rosters) remain on ther major league 40-man rosters. From here on out there would be no reason to promote a prospect without having been carded or of course having been retained past the two-year date (from initial drafting).

What I don't like about an uncapped number of prospects is the possible over-fixation on prospects on a given team. One must understand that prospects aren't solid Major leaguers....yet or perhaps never. Therefore, trading away of quality Major league talent for prospects is a risky endeavor at best. it can leave the Major league roster in shambles if too much talent is sold off for the future "promise" of a prospect that may/may not ever develop.

After thinking about I believe it would be best to vote on an increase in allowable prospects on each team but not to make it totally uncapped as that, in my estimation, would be dangerous to the integrity of the current playing season. We need to balance competitiveness for each season with Major leaguers (and you risk forfeiting that quality by selling off your major league stars for prospects that may in fact never pan out) and an eye out towards the future with our prospects. Therefore, I feel comfortable with adding something like perhaps a five prospect bump. But no more than that.

Does anyone else have any thoughts on this issue? Maybe I'm missing something....
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