MLKL SUMMER PROSPECT DRAFT

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TefJ

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Re: MLKL SUMMER PROSPECT DRAFT

PostWed Jun 19, 2013 9:40 pm

I believe that this is just a typo in the rule change. The rules as stated provide a slew of problems about eligibility for the draft. We should not have players eligible for the 12th pick in the draft who are not eligible for the first pick in the draft, which they could be due to (being signed).

We also don't want to exclude foreign players who haven't played any MLB games, so basing it on being drafted isn't great, either, and on the off chance that we have a prospect draft concurrent with the MLB draft, we'd have more issues with certain players being eligible for later picks, and not earlier ones.

The veterans of this league can weigh in, and I can't find the discussion about it in the thread, but I believe we went through this early on and that the rule was actually changed to apply the (prior to the MLB season currently being played) to BOTH the appearances AND the signing. This way seems to make the most sense, and I believe that it is how we've done things in the past.

All the other interpretations of this rule seem to me to have major issues.
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Re: MLKL SUMMER PROSPECT DRAFT

PostWed Jun 19, 2013 11:39 pm

I was not in this league for the earlier discussions, but TefJ's comments seem pretty reasonable to me!
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Re: MLKL SUMMER PROSPECT DRAFT

PostThu Jun 20, 2013 1:59 am

4) Only players without MLB experience (prior to the MLB season currently being played) and signed by a MLB team are eligible for any prospect draft.

Now, I believe this has always been interpreted to mean that you cannot draft a player drafted this year. This rule certainly doesn't say that.

This is a problem. If you can draft guys who happen to have signed already, then who's available would change daily. We either need to be formally clarified. We can go with what we have always done and it would read:

4) Only players without MLB experience (prior to the MLB season currently being played) and signed by a MLB team prior to the current season's MLB draft are eligible for any prospect draft.

The new language for division assignments is this:

2) Divisional assignments will change each season. The format is this: a) initial divisional assignments follow the general format: 1-4-7-10 East, 2-5-8-11 Central and 3-6-9-12 West. B) subsequent assignments will place assign teams in descending order of record to the three divisions with the best team being placed first in the East and the worst team being placed last in the West.

Unless there are major objections, we can vote now:

Everybody vote on 4 and 2 like this:

4/2
Peter - y/y
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Re: MLKL SUMMER PROSPECT DRAFT

PostThu Jun 20, 2013 5:02 am

4) Only players without MLB experience (prior to the MLB season currently being played) and signed by a MLB team are eligible for any prospect draft.

Now, I believe this has always been interpreted to mean that you cannot draft a player drafted this year. This rule certainly doesn't say that.

This is a problem. If you can draft guys who happen to have signed already, then who's available would change daily. We either need to be formally clarified. We can go with what we have always done and it would read:

4) Only players without MLB experience (prior to the MLB season currently being played) and signed by a MLB team prior to the current season's MLB draft are eligible for any prospect draft.

The new language for division assignments is this:

2) Divisional assignments will change each season. The format is this: a) initial divisional assignments follow the general format: 1-4-7-10 East, 2-5-8-11 Central and 3-6-9-12 West. B) subsequent assignments will place assign teams in descending order of record to the three divisions with the best team being placed first in the East and the worst team being placed last in the West.

Unless there are major objections, we can vote now:

Everybody vote on 4 and 2 like this:

4/2
Peter - y/y
thechamp87 - no/no
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Re: MLKL SUMMER PROSPECT DRAFT

PostThu Jun 20, 2013 7:41 am

4) Only players without MLB experience (prior to the MLB season currently being played) and signed by a MLB team are eligible for any prospect draft.

Now, I believe this has always been interpreted to mean that you cannot draft a player drafted this year. This rule certainly doesn't say that.

This is a problem. If you can draft guys who happen to have signed already, then who's available would change daily. We either need to be formally clarified. We can go with what we have always done and it would read:

4) Only players without MLB experience (prior to the MLB season currently being played) and signed by a MLB team prior to the current season's MLB draft are eligible for any prospect draft.

The new language for division assignments is this:

2) Divisional assignments will change each season. The format is this: a) initial divisional assignments follow the general format: 1-4-7-10 East, 2-5-8-11 Central and 3-6-9-12 West. B) subsequent assignments will place assign teams in descending order of record to the three divisions with the best team being placed first in the East and the worst team being placed last in the West.

Unless there are major objections, we can vote now:

Everybody vote on 4 and 2 like this:

4/2
Peter - y/y
thechamp87 - no/no
Aray0113 - Yes/yes
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Re: MLKL SUMMER PROSPECT DRAFT

PostThu Jun 20, 2013 9:10 am

4) Only players without MLB experience (prior to the MLB season currently being played) and signed by a MLB team are eligible for any prospect draft.

Now, I believe this has always been interpreted to mean that you cannot draft a player drafted this year. This rule certainly doesn't say that.

This is a problem. If you can draft guys who happen to have signed already, then who's available would change daily. We either need to be formally clarified. We can go with what we have always done and it would read:

4) Only players without MLB experience (prior to the MLB season currently being played) and signed by a MLB team prior to the current season's MLB draft are eligible for any prospect draft.

The new language for division assignments is this:

2) Divisional assignments will change each season. The format is this: a) initial divisional assignments follow the general format: 1-4-7-10 East, 2-5-8-11 Central and 3-6-9-12 West. B) subsequent assignments will place assign teams in descending order of record to the three divisions with the best team being placed first in the East and the worst team being placed last in the West.

Unless there are major objections, we can vote now:

Everybody vote on 4 and 2 like this:

4/2
Peter - y/y
thechamp87 - no/no
Aray0113 - Yes/yes
tcochran - yes/yes
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Re: MLKL SUMMER PROSPECT DRAFT

PostThu Jun 20, 2013 10:29 am

2) Divisional assignments will change each season. The format is this: a) initial divisional assignments follow the general format: 1-4-7-10 East, 2-5-8-11 Central and 3-6-9-12 West. B) subsequent assignments will place assign teams in descending order of record to the three divisions with the best team being placed first in the East and the worst team being placed last in the West.


I personally feel that the 4 playoff teams should be in the same division in season 2 and not the 4 teams with the best records(they arent always the same). I have had several teams miss the playoffs in season 1 but still had the 4th best record and was placed in the East with the other 3 playoff teams.
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Re: MLKL SUMMER PROSPECT DRAFT

PostThu Jun 20, 2013 10:30 am

4) Only players without MLB experience (prior to the MLB season currently being played) and signed by a MLB team are eligible for any prospect draft.

Now, I believe this has always been interpreted to mean that you cannot draft a player drafted this year. This rule certainly doesn't say that.

This is a problem. If you can draft guys who happen to have signed already, then who's available would change daily. We either need to be formally clarified. We can go with what we have always done and it would read:

4) Only players without MLB experience (prior to the MLB season currently being played) and signed by a MLB team prior to the current season's MLB draft are eligible for any prospect draft.

The new language for division assignments is this:

2) Divisional assignments will change each season. The format is this: a) initial divisional assignments follow the general format: 1-4-7-10 East, 2-5-8-11 Central and 3-6-9-12 West. B) subsequent assignments will place assign teams in descending order of record to the three divisions with the best team being placed first in the East and the worst team being placed last in the West.

Unless there are major objections, we can vote now:

Everybody vote on 4 and 2 like this:

4/2
Peter - y/y
thechamp87 - no/no
Aray0113 - Yes/yes
tcochran - yes/yes
hawk - yes/ no
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Re: MLKL SUMMER PROSPECT DRAFT

PostThu Jun 20, 2013 10:32 am

4) Only players without MLB experience (prior to the MLB season currently being played) and signed by a MLB team are eligible for any prospect draft.

Now, I believe this has always been interpreted to mean that you cannot draft a player drafted this year. This rule certainly doesn't say that.

This is a problem. If you can draft guys who happen to have signed already, then who's available would change daily. We either need to be formally clarified. We can go with what we have always done and it would read:

4) Only players without MLB experience (prior to the MLB season currently being played) and signed by a MLB team prior to the current season's MLB draft are eligible for any prospect draft.

The new language for division assignments is this:

2) Divisional assignments will change each season. The format is this: a) initial divisional assignments follow the general format: 1-4-7-10 East, 2-5-8-11 Central and 3-6-9-12 West. B) subsequent assignments will place assign teams in descending order of record to the three divisions with the best team being placed first in the East and the worst team being placed last in the West.

Unless there are major objections, we can vote now:

Everybody vote on 4 and 2 like this:

4/2
Peter - y/y
thechamp87 - no/no
Aray0113 - Yes/yes
tcochran - yes/yes
hawk - yes/ no
sknsfan - yes/yes
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Re: MLKL SUMMER PROSPECT DRAFT

PostThu Jun 20, 2013 1:16 pm

I agree with Hawk on #2 - The four playoff teams should be in one division:

4) Only players without MLB experience (prior to the MLB season currently being played) and signed by a MLB team are eligible for any prospect draft.

Now, I believe this has always been interpreted to mean that you cannot draft a player drafted this year. This rule certainly doesn't say that.

This is a problem. If you can draft guys who happen to have signed already, then who's available would change daily. We either need to be formally clarified. We can go with what we have always done and it would read:

4) Only players without MLB experience (prior to the MLB season currently being played) and signed by a MLB team prior to the current season's MLB draft are eligible for any prospect draft.

The new language for division assignments is this:

2) Divisional assignments will change each season. The format is this: a) initial divisional assignments follow the general format: 1-4-7-10 East, 2-5-8-11 Central and 3-6-9-12 West. B) subsequent assignments will place assign teams in descending order of record to the three divisions with the best team being placed first in the East and the worst team being placed last in the West.

Unless there are major objections, we can vote now:

Everybody vote on 4 and 2 like this:

4/2
Peter - y/y
thechamp87 - no/no
Aray0113 - Yes/yes
tcochran - yes/yes
hawk - yes/ no
sknsfan - yes/yes
Smitty - yes/no
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