SOM needs to find a way to curtail ridiculous overuse!!

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Re: SOM needs to find a way to curtail ridiculous overuse!!

PostFri Jul 19, 2013 10:01 pm

totally disagree -players are priced accordingly, Notice Balfour became less effective the more he was used. The online game is NOT a reproduction of actual results, but a game of team building.
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Re: SOM needs to find a way to curtail ridiculous overuse!!

PostSat Jul 20, 2013 1:23 pm

geekor. wrote:
i.e. you have 100 ab guy who is currently prices at 7 million. Usage at 110% = (110/600) * 7 mil = 1.28 mil.



This formula would need to be seriously tweaked. In this case, you have a stud card that will price the same a a mediocre backup. Both will end up with 110 ABs for the same price, but obviously you rather have the guy originally priced at 7 mil.

I also argue that limiting ABs in this game will open up the game to other abuses. For example, if I'm battling another team for first, guess which games the limited-playing-time stud will be used. And while you could counter that this is simply good strategy, it's no more realistic than the overuse you see now.
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Re: SOM needs to find a way to curtail ridiculous overuse!!

PostSat Jul 20, 2013 7:02 pm

Hey, I understand this debate. Just as an interesting aside, I remember when I first started playing online in 2008, I was reading about leagues that voluntarily adopted limits on variances from real life AB and IP. I actually WOULD be interested in trying that out. All you really need to do is set up a league on a board thread where everyone agrees to the limits. All of these online games are really governed by our own gentlemen's code of conduct. All that's needed is to set up a league with those "rules" in the initial post.

Go for it!!!
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Re: SOM needs to find a way to curtail ridiculous overuse!!

PostMon Jul 22, 2013 11:46 am

coyote303 wrote:
geekor. wrote:
i.e. you have 100 ab guy who is currently prices at 7 million. Usage at 110% = (110/600) * 7 mil = 1.28 mil.



This formula would need to be seriously tweaked. In this case, you have a stud card that will price the same a a mediocre backup. Both will end up with 110 ABs for the same price, but obviously you rather have the guy originally priced at 7 mil.

I also argue that limiting ABs in this game will open up the game to other abuses. For example, if I'm battling another team for first, guess which games the limited-playing-time stud will be used. And while you could counter that this is simply good strategy, it's no more realistic than the overuse you see now.


Seriously, calm down.

First we are talking about another option when you create a league, you wouldn't HAVE to play it so don't get your panties in a bunch here.

Second, for example to the 2012 set, there is no one that has that few AB's priced that high. I was giving random numbers. Let's take the curios case of Brandon Moss at 8.74 mil. at 265 Ab's, plus 10% = 291. So the salary would become 4.25 mil. So you could draft him, but even platooning him vs RHP would net 400 ab's or so. How would you play him over the season? Sit him vs many teams? Again I also said there should be a bump to guys with over 600 ab's to even it out.

Also you would have to realize how this would affect pitching as well. No one would be able to run with a pure 4 man staff. No one. We would all be running 12 man pitching staffs, in fact we would probably need SOM to increase the max pitchers to 14 to cover the inning requirments. It would be very difficult.
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Re: SOM needs to find a way to curtail ridiculous overuse!!

PostMon Jul 22, 2013 12:19 pm

"Also you would have to realize how this would affect pitching as well. No one would be able to run with a pure 4 man staff."

That's a whole different beast altogether. The 4 man rotation died in the 80's I think.
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Re: SOM needs to find a way to curtail ridiculous overuse!!

PostMon Jul 22, 2013 12:40 pm

visick wrote:"Also you would have to realize how this would affect pitching as well. No one would be able to run with a pure 4 man staff."

That's a whole different beast altogether. The 4 man rotation died in the 80's I think.


There is no way pitching works at it's current pricing and with a 12 man limit. Name one MLB team that used only 12 pitchers for an entire season? You would either have to have the limit be greater (say 20%?), increase the amount of pitchers allowed to carry, or (easiest method) give no innings limit to the * SP's but increase their price a lot.
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Re: SOM needs to find a way to curtail ridiculous overuse!!

PostMon Jul 22, 2013 1:34 pm

I agree :D
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Re: SOM needs to find a way to curtail ridiculous overuse!!

PostMon Jul 22, 2013 8:16 pm

I like don't know like what you like are all like talking about. Like what is really like ridiculous like over use of like anything that like happens in this game. I guess I just like missed the point on like all that is like happening here, like you like know what I like mean here. Like totally like ridiculous overuse. LIKE FOR SURE OR WHATEVER (insert eye roll here). Sometimes I just like really need to like add my 2 cents or whatever you like know what I like am totally like talking about here. :lol:
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Re: SOM needs to find a way to curtail ridiculous overuse!!

PostMon Jul 22, 2013 8:31 pm

There should mandatory minimum 28 man rosters. That would add realism and more fun. More players equals more fun and strategy.
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Re: SOM needs to find a way to curtail ridiculous overuse!!

PostMon Jul 22, 2013 9:16 pm

Been playing for 12 years....haven't stopped having fun yet...
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