l.strether wrote:LMBombers wrote:It is funny that some people think that those evil veteran managers outplay others in the autodraft the way it is. Look, everyone knows who the best players are in a player set. If a veteran manager goes for Brandon Moss like everyone else he has the same chance to not get him as the next guy. The only way a veteran manager could "outplay" anyone else maybe not going for the big stars but listing all 2nd and 3rd best players hoping everyone else goes for the marquee names and misses. Is that gaming the system?
If you make up a roster of 25 players you would like that fits under the salary cap it is virtually guaranteed that no matter if you are in an autodraft or a live draft you will not get all the key players you were planning on. There are not 12 Brandon Moss' or 12 Miggy Cabreras to go around. When the best players are drafted in most cases the next best just isn't as good.
Remember what Tom Hanks said. "There is no
in baseball."
Very well said. Any drafting system is going to involve knowledge of the game and the drafting system itself, and those with more of that knowledge will usually do better in the draft...there is no escaping that. It isn't "gaming the system"; it's playing well within that system, and no draft system (outside of a completely random one) will prevent such play from happening.
short sighted people...can't see past the tip of your nose.
Where the fuck does anyone say they want to get all their picks? no one expects that. Don't break things off to a tangent that no one is even suggesting.
The issue is the FACT that you get 0 picks, where as someone else could get all 25, even if you have the same exact draft card. How can you NOT see that as an issue. Probability is low, but it
could happen. The system is inherently flawed.
People don't want a change to a more standard draft style (miss your first pick go to 2nd, miss that go to 3rd) for no reason other than are lazy to learn a new draft style, or they want to keep the advantage they have over less knowledgeable people.
I've been playing here since the end of the 2001 season, I put a lot into the failed SOM football. I'm not talking about this as a point, put me in a league with a bunch of noobs I will end up with a great team. The issue is the draft methodology is flawed, and quite frankly plain wrong.
You could still do the replacements as they are now, but giving people the ability to a least get a good portion of their draft card, would make things more fair, a more equitable distribution of resources, you would have less of those team where (in small player pools) are essentially a dead team walking after the draft. Everyone would get some high picks. It would also make ranking simpler, just place the player you care about most up high. No secret, no I can get this player at this spot, so game within the game.
And that's where it breaks down. Guys like Nevdully who spend thousands decry a change as he will give up the game after. The guys who spend a lot want to keep their advantage in the game. Why change it to make is easier and more fair? Too many damn commuinists on these boards......
Wed Aug 28, 2013 12:15 pm