Relying on 2 good but injury prone catchers

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pvillager

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Relying on 2 good but injury prone catchers

PostSat Aug 31, 2013 3:51 pm

I'm sure that this sort of lateral thinking has been utilized before, but it's been 3-4 years since I last played hereabouts, back when Sporting News ran the thing.

http://onlinegames.strat-o-matic.com/team/1113096

Rajai Davis will, indirectly, get a lot of PAs when (not if) either Ruiz or Grandal get hurt. Such that Grandal is the primary DH both ways. In case of injury to either catcher, Willingham moves from LF to DH, Davis becomes the LF.

btw, if the above link doesn't work, I could use a quick seminar about how to actually, y'know, make the link work.

Thanks in advance, and can't we agree that Strat Baseball is the best board game ever.
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Re: Relying on 2 good but injury prone cathers

PostSun Sep 01, 2013 9:52 am

This is Tom Siebert's team currently in the finals in PC Touney #1. Seems like I have seen him use this a few times. Not sure what the method to his(and your) madness is, but he won 100 so I guess it worked.
http://onlinegames.strat-o-matic.com/team/1107516
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Re: Relying on 2 good but injury prone cathers

PostSun Sep 01, 2013 11:14 am

durantjerry wrote:This is Tom Siebert's team currently in the finals in PC Touney #1. Seems like I have seen him use this a few times. Not sure what the method to his(and your) madness is, but he won 100 so I guess it worked.
http://onlinegames.strat-o-matic.com/team/1107516


Nice. I see he also went the Tazawa route. Wonder if Tom got 240 innings out of him like I plan to do. ;)

Doubt I'll win anywhere near 100. The method/madness is based wholly upon shits & giggles.
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Re: Relying on 2 good but injury prone cathers

PostSun Sep 01, 2013 11:09 pm

It is a simple premise, only one of your high injury prone catchers can be hurt at a time. I assume that is why you guys do this.

I think the game would be a little bit better and a little more realistic if this were NOT the case and we were forced to carry a mandatory minimum of 28 players to cover for injures.

How cool would it be after say game 120 we were allowed to add five players for a maximum dollar amount of five million total, to simulate Sept. call ups?
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Re: Relying on 2 good but injury prone cathers

PostMon Sep 02, 2013 4:04 pm

Radagast is right and this is a good strategy. Whenever one of the catchers is injured beginning with the next game the other catcher is superman and cannot get injured. So your only risk is that they will both get injured in the same game (unlikely). In fact in ATG whenever I use Josh Gibson I like to pair him with a high injury backup who I use as a defensive replacement. I also like to play Gibson at first knowing that if he or my starting catcher gets hurt I have no further injury risk. So one halfway decent first baseman provides bench depth for both first and catcher positions.

The above strategy assumes of course you never use another position player who happens to have catcher listed on card. Accidentally having such a player on your team cancels the superman effect because with a third catcher it does not kick in until all 3 are injured. It still amazes me how many experienced managers still carry 3 catchers.

I too would prefer this were not the case. It would make those players who also have catcher on their card more valuable instead of a potential liability. Plus I suspect the pricing model probably adds just a little to their price because they are multi-position and thus provide flexibility. You pay for flexibility that works against you.
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Re: Relying on 2 good but injury prone cathers

PostTue Sep 03, 2013 10:54 am

Great points Valen
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Re: Relying on 2 good but injury prone cathers

PostWed Sep 04, 2013 10:58 am

In case of injury to either catcher, Willingham moves from LF to DH, Davis becomes the LF.

Wait, is this something Hal does? If so that is a bug.
According to MLB rules a DH cannot move to the field without canceling the DH.

Once a Designated Hitter assumes a defensive position this move shall terminate the Designated Hitter role for the remainder of the game.


http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/official_info/official_rules/batter_6.jsp
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Re: Relying on 2 good but injury prone cathers

PostWed Sep 04, 2013 8:59 pm

Valen wrote:
In case of injury to either catcher, Willingham moves from LF to DH, Davis becomes the LF.

Wait, is this something Hal does? If so that is a bug.
According to MLB rules a DH cannot move to the field without canceling the DH.

Once a Designated Hitter assumes a defensive position this move shall terminate the Designated Hitter role for the remainder of the game.


http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/official_info/official_rules/batter_6.jsp


Yikes! No, er, well maybe for the remainder of a series during which a catcher injury occurs, depending on what the HAL AI chooses to do. Actually I was speaking to what is my (lame) alternate strategy, such that when either catcher is injured, then *between series* I put Rajai in LF for Willingham, who in turn becomes my DH. Point being that when one of the catchers is hurt, I no longer have the option of DHing Grandal (who is either hurt or my only catcher).
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Re: Relying on 2 good but injury prone cathers

PostThu Sep 05, 2013 10:53 pm

You are correct. If going to use backup catcher as DH gotta have an alternate plan for replacing the DH. But since that alternate could play any position and double as a backup for that position should be easy to plan for.

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