How does SOM establish Staium HR numbers exactly?

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How does SOM establish Staium HR numbers exactly?

PostSun Sep 29, 2013 6:33 pm

Does it go by total HRs (home and opposition) hit at a particular Park? Does it go by somet6hing else? What are the exact criteria involved? Does the home teams' CF factor into establishing the Stadium HR numbers...in addition to factoring into the individual pitcher cards?

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Re: How does SOM establish Staium HR numbers exactly?

PostSun Sep 29, 2013 7:47 pm

fredpaii wrote:Does it go by total HRs (home and opposition) hit at a particular Park? Does it go by somet6hing else? What are the exact criteria involved? Does the home teams' CF factor into establishing the Stadium HR numbers...in addition to factoring into the individual pitcher cards?

What do you KNOW?



Do not quote me exactly on this and I do not remember where i read it or how long ago, it may have even been in an old strat fan magazine from the early 90's, but I remember reading an article somewhere that said they use a 3 year average, to determine ball park home run numbers. As to the exact formula I don't know. I've searched the web, but can't find the article. Perhaps this should be sent to Garcia's blog???
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Re: How does SOM establish Staium HR numbers exactly?

PostSun Sep 29, 2013 7:56 pm

Ninersphan wrote:
fredpaii wrote:Does it go by total HRs (home and opposition) hit at a particular Park? Does it go by somet6hing else? What are the exact criteria involved? Does the home teams' CF factor into establishing the Stadium HR numbers...in addition to factoring into the individual pitcher cards?

What do you KNOW?



Do not quote me exactly on this and I do not remember where i read it or how long ago, it may have even been in an old strat fan magazine from the early 90's, but I remember reading an article somewhere that said they use a 3 year average, to determine ball park home run numbers. As to the exact formula I don't know. I've searched the web, but can't find the article. Perhaps this should be sent to Garcia's blog???



Okay, thank you.
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Re: How does SOM establish Staium HR numbers exactly?

PostSun Sep 29, 2013 9:00 pm

I'll relay whatever reply I get from SOM.
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Re: How does SOM establish Staium HR numbers exactly?

PostSun Sep 29, 2013 9:08 pm

It was in the Strat Fan magazine that a 3 year running average is used. The exact formula is proprietary and the author was not allowed to divulge the exact formula. How many HRs hit in each ballpark I think is heavily weighted. And one can debate whether for example Rangers ballpark has high ratings because they had a run with great hitters and below average pitching so both home and visitors drove up the numbers. I suspect that the ratings for the ballpark will go down as HRs there have felt like they were down this year. Fewer HR hitters on the home team and better pitchers on the home team mean fewer HRs overall.

I personally think it should be some sort of formula that compares how a team does at home verses the road. After adjusting for the impact of just being in your home park one would expect a park with high HR rating to host a team that hit a lot more HRs at home than on the road. And vice versa. But I do not think that is how it works based on anecdotal observation and what I remember reading in the Strat Fan magazine years ago.
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Re: How does SOM establish Staium HR numbers exactly?

PostSun Sep 29, 2013 9:54 pm

The fact that it's secret makes me think that SOM changes things up on occasion and doesn't go strictly by any set guidelines for this particular aspect of the game. It seems bush league to me...if that is the case.
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Re: How does SOM establish Staium HR numbers exactly?

PostSun Sep 29, 2013 11:22 pm

Being a secret accomplishes several things.

1- Competitors cannot copy it. Even if they appear to you can say they left out the most important factor which is the secret part.

2- You can always claim it is superior to whatever competitors come up as your formula is based on extensive research time tested algorithyms and nobody can prove you wrong. This is similar to WAR which requires a supercomputer to calculate with different proprietary formulas depending on who is doing the calculating. I actually think Strato was only able to lower prices after taking over from TSN because of the extra leasing revenues they collect from the 3 stat services for the temporary use of HAL to calculate that voodoo.

3- Perhaps best of all nobody, even your best customer, can say your formula was misapplied and thus wrong because you can always just proclaim the discrepancy is due to the other guy not using the correct formula so of course they got a wrong answer. Your resulting rating assignments are thus by definition perfect.

No matter how much I criticize them they are not total idiots. :lol:
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Re: How does SOM establish Staium HR numbers exactly?

PostMon Sep 30, 2013 12:36 am

Here's my take...They use different criteria as they feel the need from season to season. Simply put, the criteria are/is in a state of flux.

The reason I don't like the secretive nature of this is due to the inherent lack of accountability and predictability.


I have to ask why anyone would want to copy this system. It's crazy nuts.
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Re: How does SOM establish Staium HR numbers exactly?

PostMon Sep 30, 2013 9:33 am

It is on a three year average. That bein said. I think the info for that came from either Bernie over at the old site, OR from the reading material that comes with the board game. I know I seen/read the 3 year average thingy, and I only played the online version for the past 12 years, and most of that, was from 2000-2003 and now recently the end of last year, to current.
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Re: How does SOM establish Staium HR numbers exactly?

PostMon Sep 30, 2013 12:10 pm

Here's the reply I got...

"Ballpark data is based on a number of different factors including the number of home runs hit compared to previous seasons."
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