NLD 34 - Here we go again

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Re: NLD 34 - Here we go again!- DJ Pls pick < .85

PostSat Oct 26, 2013 1:03 am

Back into a holding pattern for Big A. No clock over the weekend however.

Hopefully next week is better for him. It would nice to start the Monday after Halloween.

We just don't have *that* far to go now! :)
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Re: NLD 34 - Here we go again! - Big A is up - DJ Can pick

PostSat Oct 26, 2013 5:09 am

gbrookes wrote:My point is that when I do the math on cheap starters, I come to one consistent conclusion - that you just simply get what you pay for (not surprisingly). So the only way I would prefer cheap specialty starters is when I can start them against a very extreme batting lineup, with a very extreme balance or handedness advantage for the pitcher.


If you use 4 SPs*, each SP pitches at least 40 games each with two getting 41 games.

If you use 5 SPs, each pitches 32 games with two pitching 33 games.

If you mix, the SP* will be limited to no more than 38 games depending the number of SPs in the rotation. A loss of 3 games with other SP* losing up to 5 starts each.

Losing 3 or 5 games for the * starter rating to work a match-up every third or fourth series is too expensive me.
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Re: NLD 34 - Here we go again!- DJ Pls pick < .85

PostSat Oct 26, 2013 5:28 am

With Jeep and my team occupying lefty parks and Zim leaning hard right, does Nythhawk reverse course and go with a balanced park? ;)
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Re: NLD 34 - Here we go again! - Big A is up - DJ Can pick

PostSat Oct 26, 2013 9:20 am

Semper Gumby wrote:
gbrookes wrote:My point is that when I do the math on cheap starters, I come to one consistent conclusion - that you just simply get what you pay for (not surprisingly). So the only way I would prefer cheap specialty starters is when I can start them against a very extreme batting lineup, with a very extreme balance or handedness advantage for the pitcher.


If you use 4 SPs*, each SP pitches at least 40 games each with two getting 41 games.

If you use 5 SPs, each pitches 32 games with two pitching 33 games.

If you mix, the SP* will be limited to no more than 38 games depending the number of SPs in the rotation. A loss of 3 games with other SP* losing up to 5 starts each.

Losing 3 or 5 games for the * starter rating to work a match-up every third or fourth series is too expensive me.


Not quite sure I understand what your trying to say here. No matter how many SP you have it is possible to get the full 41 GS out of any particular SP* using the per game slots.
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Re: NLD 34 - Here we go again! - Big A is up - DJ Can pick

PostSat Oct 26, 2013 9:30 am

Semper Gumby wrote:
gbrookes wrote:My point is that when I do the math on cheap starters, I come to one consistent conclusion - that you just simply get what you pay for (not surprisingly). So the only way I would prefer cheap specialty starters is when I can start them against a very extreme batting lineup, with a very extreme balance or handedness advantage for the pitcher.


If you use 4 SPs*, each SP pitches at least 40 games each with two getting 41 games.

If you use 5 SPs, each pitches 32 games with two pitching 33 games.

If you mix, the SP* will be limited to no more than 38 games depending the number of SPs in the rotation. A loss of 3 games with other SP* losing up to 5 starts each.

Losing 3 or 5 games for the * starter rating to work a match-up every third or fourth series is too expensive me.


I understand your logic too.

Mine might be hard to debate without some numerical support from my perspective. I think I'll wait till our league starts, and I'll share some numbers after a few games are played - always after the games, not before. The logical time for me to share numbers would be in connection with games where I chose to delay a start for Gonzalez, since starting every 4th game is obviously the default strategy.

The following comment doesn't necessarily prove my point at all, because it's posted in a different context. But J-Pav's recent post here about his secret formula at work in 2012 is interesting to me, because his new team is using the same SP mix, with Gio Gonzalez mixed in with non SP* starters:

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=634204&p=5452032&sid=c87c8e91dc1356cce2e247644736a710#p5452032

Anyway, I'll share some stuff once our season begins, after some specific games where I made choices based on my analysis.
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Re: NLD 34 - Here we go again!- DJ Pls pick < .85

PostSat Oct 26, 2013 10:36 am

We're off to the races - lots of proxies fired!
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Re: NLD 34 - Here we go again!- DJ Pls pick < .85

PostSat Oct 26, 2013 12:05 pm

Guys, sorry for being absent for large parts of the last days. Had to take care of some issues, but now I am back and think I caught up . Sorry again!
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Re: NLD 34 - Here we go again!- DJ Pls pick < .85

PostSat Oct 26, 2013 12:21 pm

BigAlric wrote:Guys, sorry for being absent for large parts of the last days. Had to take care of some issues, but now I am back and think I caught up . Sorry again!


We're still moving - sometimes it's tough to get online. I spent most of 24 hours on airplanes or sleeping Tuesday afternoon thru Wednesday afternoon . Some don't have Internet at work or are working long hours. It's all good, and you're back.

I just refreshed my screen and I think you're still up BigAlric. ;)

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Re: NLD 34 - Here we go again!- DJ Pls pick < .85

PostSat Oct 26, 2013 12:28 pm

Never mind! DJ's up!
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Re: NLD 34 - Here we go again!- DJ Pls pick < .85

PostSat Oct 26, 2013 12:29 pm

Never mind! dJ's up!
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