Explain this one 2

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danielz

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Explain this one 2

PostSun Dec 22, 2013 9:25 pm

BOTTOM OF INNING 9
SUBSTITUTION at P: Mariano Rivera (role: Closer)
0 T.Williams 3-7 Walk b-1 F9
0 1 J.Mize 4-5 Single (LF) 1-o b-2 F9
1 2 M.Mantle 5-9 Strike Out b-0 F9
2 2 J.Mauer 4-5 Single (RF) 2-3 b-1 F9
SUBSTITUTION at PR: Shano Collins
2 1 3 C.Jones 2-10 Ground Out (P) b-0 F9


Down by 2, Mize's hit will put the tying run on, but NOOOOOO
Hal decides that the speedy Ted Williams should try to go 1st to 3rd.

The whole base running logic in this game sucks because other times
with 2 outs and a guy like Henderson on 2nd, Hal will hold him at 3rd.
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Re: Explain this one 2

PostSun Dec 22, 2013 11:11 pm

Frustrating true. But if I had a dollar every time a real life player tried for that extra meaningless base......
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Re: Explain this one 2

PostMon Dec 23, 2013 10:59 am

Valen happens to be right about this one. Hard to blame the game logic when it happens just as often in real life. You could actually argue that it makes it more realistic in that aspect.
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Re: Explain this one 2

PostMon Dec 23, 2013 1:27 pm

You really think that happens in MLB on more than a very rare occasion?

That a runner who is not the tying run would take a chance on getting thrown out and being the second or even third out in a final inning situation like that?
And Teddie baseball?

I'd have to disagree - that if you're in the major leagues - that basic maxim is drilled in your head constantly.

And I'm certain most teams have major fines for something as dumb as that.

I'd be very curious to see some stat on that, if there are any. Lord knows - they keep a stat on everything else.

I'm not saying it's never happened, but I think it happens in Strat way more than actual MLB.
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Re: Explain this one 2

PostMon Dec 23, 2013 2:05 pm

Mariners' fans will get to enjoy the baserunning follies of one Corey Hart, who gets thrown out on the bases in a ridiculous situation at least twice a month. He may have been the baserunning model for the online logic.
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Re: Explain this one 2

PostMon Dec 23, 2013 5:14 pm

You really think that happens in MLB on more than a very rare occasion?

I see it all the time. Announcers love to point it out and drone on about the bad baserunning. McCarver will drone on about how it is drilled in to every player. I even see it from veteran players and world series teams. All you have to do is watch a few games. Put down the strat dice, purchase some tickets, and go see the local team. If you do not live near a local team games are all over television now. I promise you will not have to watch many games before seeing a bad baserunning play.

I understand they have meetings and drills and everything else. But when they get out there actually playing split second decisions have to be made. Emotions get involved. Players are human.
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Re: Explain this one 2

PostMon Dec 23, 2013 5:37 pm

Anybody watch the Texas Rangers on a regular basis last season? Ask the ex third base coach, Dave Anderson how bad base running and decisions worked out for him. He can be contacted through the State of Texas Work Commission under the heading coaches looking for work.
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Re: Explain this one 2

PostMon Dec 23, 2013 8:36 pm

I would say this is a bad fielding play that happened to work out. If you throw to 3rd and don't get the out you now have the tying run in scoring position instead of on 1st. I would think the odds are with the runner or he doesn't go so 60%+ of the time you have two in scoring position and no outs. I certainly didn't play mlb but we were told let the runner take 3rd, that run doesn't matter but the guy on first does. Where Hal goes wrong is that in the 7th you may be ok with the play but in the 9th you want 90% before running.
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Re: Explain this one 2

PostMon Dec 23, 2013 11:05 pm

N Texas Widowmakers wrote:Anybody watch the Texas Rangers on a regular basis last season? Ask the ex third base coach, Dave Anderson how bad base running and decisions worked out for him. He can be contacted through the State of Texas Work Commission under the heading coaches looking for work.



OK, now I see the problem. Y'all been watching too much of that Texas baseball. They forget if they're running first to third or running an offtackle dive! :o :lol:
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Re: Explain this one 2

PostTue Dec 24, 2013 3:53 pm

In general Wash has most of his baserunners on super aggressive.
But it is not just the Rangers. Just about every series there will be at least one player on opposing team who violates the unwritten rules of baserunning.

Look at it another way. If baserunners did not frequently take chances on the basepaths how would any outfielder get an assist?
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