Strat and TSN

What?

I didn't say you didn't answer my question well...I simply asked you another question.

Can you give a summary of some of the whiny malcontents who incessantly gripe? Your best recollections would suffice since I too believe you.

This was the question you asked me, Nev, and I both cogently answered it and gave compelling examples.

What is truly frustrating, is when I do well address and answer your actual question, and then you gripe about my not adequately answering a question you never asked. SOM may have communication problems, but that was not
an element of your actual question (see above), nor was it a part of the excellent examples of whiny malcontents I gave you.

Hmmm. I didn't criticize your answering of my question...I simply asked you another question....and I don't see where "I griped" I said I "hoped" you'd give it a shot.

Frustrating-

strether;
you are missing the point-
most of the complaining that matters has nothing to do with the game itself.

Of course you were saying I "didn't answer the question well' since you said "I was missing the point." Otherwise, why did you find my answer "frustrating"?

You really need to read your own posts better, Nev...

You griped in your response, Nev (see above). You really do need to read better.

And I'm glad you have no complaint with my answer I gave you, and the examples I gave, With that agreement we can move on to actually improving the forum and community

You griped in your response, Nev (see above). You really do need to read better.

Those are not my words....not my post...they are from Salty.

I simply asked do you know the significance of Ernie Banks as he pertains to ATG?

You griped in your response, Nev (see above). You really do need to read better.

Those are not my words....not my post...they are from Salty.

I simply asked do you know the significance of Ernie Banks as he pertains to ATG?

You're right, and I apologize, Nev. Having to respond to both you and Salty in such rapidly appearing posts, I confused you two in the process....and now I have to go back to address Salty. However, I already answered one of your questions, and you have yet to respond to the entirety of my initial post. So, I will answer your question once you do.

Well truth is I think the community is beyond help

In a nutshell and in response to your post, the Ernie Banks question and answer are why, even though I like much of what scottdoug (in another post) and you have said, I'm waiting for community/forum to pick up just a little momentum before I jump on board.

Frustrating-

strether;
you are missing the point-
most of the complaining that matters has nothing to do with the game itself.
Sure, all those things happen-

What's frustrating, Salty, is your erroneously claiming I "missed the point" when I accurately and compellingly answered Nev's question. I didn't miss the point; I was dead on. Most of the complaining--in all of SOM, not just ATG--does and has had everything to do with the game itself, as my examples well showed.

The complaining that matters is about the company.

1. who is answering the FAQs?
2. who is responding to emails?
3. who is responding to community requests?
4. you want the boards to be active- then stop censoring discussions which go beyond SoM...

Simple, really!@!

No, it's not "simple, really" and whether or not the complaining you mentioned is the "complaining that matters", it is not the majority of the complaints that occur, which you fail to realize was what I was addressing in my answer to Nev.

We have been talking about this same crap for years- why would it suddenly be the communities fault?
When the company steps up to the plate- then we have something to discuss.

I never said anything was the communitys "fault," although I did well show that members of the community could improve the forum and community themselves and how to do so. Apparently you have no interest in doing anything to improve the community except complain to SOM and hope it does something...and I think you and the rest of us could do more.