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Re: Strat and TSN

PostMon Jun 02, 2014 11:23 am

Scottbdoug wrote:Question...

Isn't an English Professor one that teaches English literature, and a Professor of English one who teaches how to write English (grammar, spelling, the use of similes, metaphors and the like)?

or am I just lost?

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No- Scott- you are SPOT ON, which was the point.
I'm trying to hold back from being overly mean spirited, so Im going to leave it for now at the corrections I made to the professor's paragraph.
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Re: Strat and TSN

PostMon Jun 02, 2014 4:55 pm

Scottbdoug wrote:Question...

Isn't an English Professor one that teaches English literature, and a Professor of English one who teaches how to write English (grammar, spelling, the use of similes, metaphors and the like)?

or am I just lost?

Scott the Complainer.


Actually, no, Scott. An English professor can teach just English Literature, although even then, he or she is still teaching his or her students English grammar and composition skills in the grading of their papers. Most of us, however, usually teach courses in both English literature and English composition. I,myself, teach courses in 19th and 20th century century literature--as well as American Modern and Postmodern literature--and courses in English composition and rhetoric.

"Professor of English" is an official title that some colleges and universities use in their department listing, although some do list their professors as "professor," "associate professor" or "assistant professor," depending on tenure level. I have never heard any of my colleagues or any other English professor refer to themselves as a "professor of English" in any casual conversation or missive. To do so would be pretentious and haughty by trying to add an unnecessary and uncalled for air of sophistication to their job.

So, you really need to again look up definitions for "English professor" and see what it means, as well as if any definition actually says English professors "only teach English literature" or rigidly separates "English professors" from "Professors of English" as you say they do...I've never seen either.
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Re: Strat and TSN

PostMon Jun 02, 2014 4:58 pm

Also, did Salty make any corrections to my paragraph as he said?...I sure didn't see any.
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Re: Strat and TSN

PostMon Jun 02, 2014 4:59 pm

I didn't know so I asked the question. Now I have my answer, which is good.

Scott the Complainer.
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Re: Strat and TSN

PostMon Jun 02, 2014 5:07 pm

Salty wrote:
l.strether wrote:
Here's my original post again, Nev, and I truly (extra word) suggest (both you or yourself) you and others give it and its suggestions (they are 'your' suggestions not the posts)serious consideration. I don't care about (receiving) any credit for the ideas, and, even if you have a problem with me personally (there has been no suggestion of a personal issue), you should judge these ideas on their own merit and value (this is a run-on sentence). As (for)to the terms I used in my introduction, they were not "abusive." However, I agree (that) with you that my continuing using (continued use of them) them would not be conducive to actually (extra word)improving the community, and we (please continue to use the first person here, as no one else used these terms) all need to avoid using them (be specific in your reference)if we want to do so .

I'm going to take a break from ATG from(for) a bit. Although I've enjoyed debating with most of you, even an old vet like me (such as myself) can get (become) exhausted debating an entire tag team(team-tag implies 2 people)... ;)


Dear Sir- while I am not claiming that any of my posts are error-free; I am also not claiming to be a professor of any sort of language, never mind a 'good' one. I do have a copy of Strunk and White, if you would like, I can mail it to you, gratis, and perhaps on your break you can put it to use.
Also, I find the 'eye winking' as you found my 'eye rolling', cute.
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Re: Strat and TSN

PostMon Jun 02, 2014 5:08 pm

l.strether wrote:Also, did Salty make any corrections to my paragraph as he said?...I sure didn't see any.


He did...You really should read his posts better.
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Re: Strat and TSN

PostMon Jun 02, 2014 5:12 pm

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Too funny. This is going to go on, because Im afraid the Professor of English will be unable to help himself...
The good news is that after reading it a second time I found additional errors, or perhaps errata would be more appropriate.

Still, too funny.
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Re: Strat and TSN

PostMon Jun 02, 2014 5:16 pm

Salty wrote:
Salty wrote:
l.strether wrote:
Here's my original post again, Nev, and I truly (extra word) suggest (both you or yourself) you and others give it and its suggestions (they are 'your' suggestions not the posts)serious consideration. I don't care about (receiving) any credit for the ideas, and, even if you have a problem with me personally (there has been no suggestion of a personal issue), you should judge these ideas on their own merit and value (this is a run-on sentence). As to the terms I used in my introduction, they were not "abusive." However, I agree with you that my continuing using (continued use of them) them would not be conducive to actually (extra word)improving the community, and we (please continue to use the first person here, as no one else used these terms) all need to avoid using them (be specific in your reference)if we want to do so .

I'm going to take a break from ATG from(for) a bit. Although I've enjoyed debating with most of you, even an old vet like me (such as myself) can get (become) exhausted debating an entire tag team(team-tag implies 2 people)... ;)


Dear Sir- while I am not claiming that any of my posts are error-free; I am also not claiming to be a professor of any sort of language, never mind a 'good' one. I do have a copy of Strunk and White, if you would like, I can mail it to you, gratis, and perhaps on your break you can put it to use.
Also, I find the 'eye winking' as you found my 'eye rolling', cute.


Oh, I see them now...he put them inside my actual quote, which isn't the clearest way of doing things. Anyway, his "corrections" are all terrible and incorrect...really embarrassingly awful. I'm extremely comforted he is not an English professor; his students would sue.

And since I said I wouldn't debate Salty and his adolescent tactics of evasion and attack any more, I won't debate him on these "corrections" either. However, if any poor soul wants to stand by Salty's mess and make those "corrections" themselves and address them to me as their own...I would gladly do so.
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Re: Strat and TSN

PostMon Jun 02, 2014 5:20 pm

l.strether wrote:
Actually, no, Scott. An English professor can teach just English Literature, although even then, he or she is still teaching his or her students English grammar and composition skills in the grading of their papers. Most of us, however, usually teach courses in both English literature and English composition. I,myself, teach courses in 19th and 20th century century literature--as well as American Modern and Postmodern literature--and courses in English composition and rhetoric.



Dear sir-
even in this paragraph you mix first, second and third person all within a couple of sentences.
Perhaps the English language doesn't mean what you think it means...(courtesy of the Princess Bride)
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Re: Strat and TSN

PostMon Jun 02, 2014 5:25 pm

Salty wrote:
l.strether wrote:
Actually, no, Scott. An English professor can teach just English Literature, although even then, he or she is still teaching his or her students English grammar and composition skills in the grading of their papers. Most of us, however, usually teach courses in both English literature and English composition. I,myself, teach courses in 19th and 20th century century literature--as well as American Modern and Postmodern literature--and courses in English composition and rhetoric.



Dear sir-
even in this paragraph you mix first, second and third person all within a couple of sentences.
Perhaps the English language doesn't mean what you think it means...(courtesy of the Princess Bride)


Since this isn't an actual debate, Salty, I'll humor you and your humorous English "skills."

No, I did not confuse them. If I did, show me where and how. I used those pronouns completely correctly,so you need to show why they're wrong.
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