What if Mystery Card sets weren't Mysteries???

I was looking at a 80's mystery card league. I did a couple when the game was still at TSN. Not a huge fan.

My question is would you be more interested in a 60's, 70's, 80's, 90's player set if it were offered without the mystery card aspect? By that I mean a straight up game like ATG7 where all 5 player seasons for a given player were available to draft and exchange cards like in the main ATG7 game?

I agree. I have played two mystery leagues and won't play another. But I would play if they removed the mystery part of it.

Rick Smith

For those of you who have never tried a Mystery League, I would highly recommend it. Now that I have found the Mystery Leagues it is hard to go back to regular Strat-O-Matic. The strategy in the Mystery Game is endless and you feel like you are managing a real team with difficult decisions to make. It might not be for all, but I love it.

ATG needs hundreds of more cards to choose from like a hole in the head. The Mystery card games are the most fun of any SOM game as it requires strategy on a day to day basis much more than a fixed card league.

I know it is heresy for some to not know the exact card you have from day 1 and that is fine. Mystery card games are like real baseball. If you begin a season with Will Myers for example you think you have a .295 hitter but as the Rays can see so far this season they ended up with the .227 card instead. It works the other way too. Who knew your Nelson Cruz card would be leading all of MLB in HR and RBI? You work with your roster to try and improve your team. Is it time to cut bait with Will Myers as his card isn't worth his salary or has he just been getting unlucky rolls so far and will be raking when he gets back from the DL? You have to make those managerial decisions. At the end of the season when you get the card reveals you get to see how well you did on your decision making.

Just leave our Mystery card games be for those of us that enjoy them.

ATG needs hundreds of more cards to choose from like a hole in the head. The Mystery card games are the most fun of any SOM game as it requires strategy on a day to day basis much more than a fixed card league.

I know it is heresy for some to not know the exact card you have from day 1 and that is fine. Mystery card games are like real baseball. If you begin a season with Will Myers for example you think you have a .295 hitter but as the Rays can see so far this season they ended up with the .227 card instead. It works the other way too. Who knew your Nelson Cruz card would be leading all of MLB in HR and RBI? You work with your roster to try and improve your team. Is it time to cut bait with Will Myers as his card isn't worth his salary or has he just been getting unlucky rolls so far and will be raking when he gets back from the DL? You have to make those managerial decisions. At the end of the season when you get the card reveals you get to see how well you did on your decision making.

Just leave our Mystery card games be for those of us that enjoy them.

I played 2 games of the 80's game and 2 games of the 90's game almost 2 years ago. I haven't played since, I can't argue the skill aspect. I am sure that there is a talent for analyzing certain nuiances in the boxscores and trends to try and predict which card you have and use that data to try and determine what changes you should make mid stream....for me I wanted to like the game, but the evaluation aspect of midstream sadly wasn't my cup of tea.

I don't think Redrum was suggesting to get rid of the Mystery Games, I believe what he was suggesting was for the SOM to "add" an additional card set or two or three, to have DECADE ONLY versions of the SOM ATG, instead of having 5,500 or so ATG cards covering 140 years of baseball, say having 1,200 card Decade sets with say 300 players that are NON-MYSTERY....which is something I have been mentioning to others in private conversations (not here on the boards) for over a year now....if RedRum is suggesting additional offerings of starting off with one or two DECADES of a non mystery ATG set, then I would echo his sentiments....I don't see how that would mean the death of the Mystery Card Game....both could be mutually exclusive and the Mystery Card Games could move forward with the good folks that enjoy that genre....you would think that as SOM grows their base, that there should be enough variety of everyone....kinda like a successful restaurant...as their chef discovers new recipes, hopefully they would "add" the new dishes to the menu rather than "replacing" new for the old.

i love the mystery games. it keeps you involved trying to find good years. a feature i would like is a feature where you pay a premium price for a player and you are guaranteed 1 of he 2 or 3 best seasons.

Just to be Clear.

I am not saying get rid of the Mystery card game. I am saying make the player card set also available without that component.

If you love playing the Mystery card game that's great. You don't need to defend the game or tell everyone how great it is.

Some of us like playing small cap and some of us like playing big cap games. Some like Dh and some no DH. It's just a matter of preference.

i love the mystery games. it keeps you involved trying to find good years. a feature i would like is a feature where you pay a premium price for a player and you are guaranteed 1 of he 2 or 3 best seasons.

That option might work for the ATG games; I haven't played them, and I couldn't say. However, it would be a disaster in the Mystery Games, which I play often. For the Mystery League to function as such, all cards would have to be equally mysterious...outside of info revealed by game play.