Bags 11.60 injury risk

Bagwell has killed me enough time disappearing late in the season to kill too many pennant runs for me to take him. Every time I soften and take him - boom - out for 15 games. I've inquired about this problem without either a reply or a resolution. Maybe since MIghty Mosse has noticed the problem - he can get it fixed along with some other season shortened players that are unfairly hurt.

mamiller_53

I never noticed much of a "batch" injury run until tonight:

Game 135--Brian Giles injured for 1 game
Game 137--Brian Giles injured for 1 game
Game 140--Brian GIles injured for 3 games

Thankfully, he can't go down for more than 3 games, so there's a chance I might have him for at least 7 more starts this season.

I also still adhere to my belief in "batch" injuries wherein the same guy gets injured on the same night on multiple teams

Count me among those who have traditionally scoffed. But with several who play so many more teams than I do periodically saying they see it cannot dismiss it. I could see strat putting in some code to randomly pick cards to have nagging injuries.

I'm having a hard time understanding what Bag's real life injury on his last game of the season has to do with how strat implements injuries? Are some of you suggesting that strat consider "circumstances"?

Bottom line is if a player played in X% of his team's games that is what should be the most influential factor in determining an injury rating?

If a player only missed 4 games out of 162, maybe he shouldn't be given a 0, but the only question would be the max number of games he could miss with an injury roll. Whether or not that can happen to him 3-4 times a year is a separate issue IMO, one that should be simple to rectify though.

Also, IMO, it's almost foolish to use the cheaper Bags card in a cap over 140 or higher.

I'm having a hard time understanding what Bag's real life injury on his last game of the season has to do with how strat implements injuries? Are some of you suggesting that strat consider "circumstances"?

Bottom line is if a player played in X% of his team's games that is what should be the most influential factor in determining an injury rating?

If a player only missed 4 games out of 162, maybe he shouldn't be given a 0, but the only question would be the max number of games he could miss with an injury roll. Whether or not that can happen to him 3-4 times a year is a separate issue IMO, one that should be simple to rectify though.

Also, IMO, it's almost foolish to use the cheaper Bags card in a cap over 140 or higher.

I don't think Strat is making any sort of conscious determination or analysis of his injuries-- instead, they're simply sticking to the up-or-down inquiry of whether he had 600 PA's in determining whether he can miss up to 15 games. Some people have suggested that's unfair to Bagwell because he only missed a handful of the games that were actually played. Because of his broken hand, he's not the best player to make that case for, because he would not have hit 600 PA's even if there hadn't been a strike. That doesn't diminish the legitimacy of the argument for other 1994 cards (such as Kenny Lofton, Tony Gwynn or Moises Alou) who played in nearly every game, and presumably would have done so if there wasn't a strike, but still are subject to missing 15 games. The strike argument is stronger for those guys than it is for Bagwell - but it comes up more frequently with him because of his monster card.

I get that, but if we're going to make assumptions that some of those guys in 94 would have played all their games (if a strike never occurred) then aren't we basing their injury risk on shaky data, that is only based in assumption?

IMO any strike season should have injury ratings based separately from non strike seasons to address the lower PA aspect of the equation. IOW pro rate the 94 cards to allow injuries to translate properly. It wouldn't address the Bagwell card relative to his real life injury in the final game, but does create a standard based upon guys playing in games that actually took place not games that could have been played in if certain things did or didn't happen.

Lost n the discussion of the injury risks associated with Bagwell (and others) is any consideration of the fact that, if the guy was not a 15-game risk, his card price would go up significantly. Maybe you guys that "lost playoff spots" due to a late season injury wouldn't have been in contention had you chosen to spend your money on "less risky" players.

Remember this post ? Resurrected after 2 months.

What was the results of the $11.60 9L Baggs season ? Season finished Friday night. Baggs played in EVERY GAME.

http://onlinegames.strat-o-matic.com/team/1380023

Impact ? 67 HR - 145 RBI - Beat the crap out of the 13.97 Mantle on the team who was WAY underperforming and did not show leadership.

Also, with 3 games left to play, I needed to SWEEP to win the WC. BAGGS went 7 for 12, 6 HR, 13 rbi in the 3-game series and the Moose squeaks into the first semi-finals as far back as my alzheimers can remember.

Of course, that being said NOW - I completely EXPECT him to go down for 15 in his first AB in the Semi-s. COUNT ON IT !

MM

Remember this post ? Resurrected after 2 months.

What was the results of the $11.60 9L Baggs season ? Season finished Friday night. Baggs played in EVERY GAME.

http://onlinegames.strat-o-matic.com/team/1380023

Impact ? 67 HR - 145 RBI - Beat the crap out of the 13.97 Mantle on the team who was WAY underperforming and did not show leadership.

Also, with 3 games left to play, I needed to SWEEP to win the WC. BAGGS went 7 for 12, 6 HR, 13 rbi in the 3-game series and the Moose squeaks into the first semi-finals as far back as my alzheimers can remember.

Of course, that being said NOW - I completely EXPECT him to go down for 15 in his first AB in the Semi-s. COUNT ON IT !

MM

Wrath of HAL has been incurred.

http://onlinegames.strat-o-matic.com/team/sim/385269

Yeah, everyone else should just not draft that Bagwell slouch...