Jerk Em Around at Every Turn

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Treyomo

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Re: Jerk Em Around at Every Turn

PostFri Jul 11, 2014 5:06 pm

At least I'll save a dime on Jeff Bagwell to cover that 5th SP.
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Re: Jerk Em Around at Every Turn

PostSat Jul 12, 2014 3:44 am

Part of the reason for some of the prices raises were supply and demand. If a pitcher is almost always picked at .50 (regardless of the reason he is oft picked) why shouldn't his price go up 20 or 30 thousand dollars? I really don't see how this is "Screwing over SOM customers", unless you are just being sarcastic. Besides it is a poor use of resources to have four or five guys at .5 million who never play and add nothing to your team and it is unrealistic to carry such players to boot.
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Re: Jerk Em Around at Every Turn

PostSat Jul 12, 2014 4:15 am

I see Nev's point. The reason I carry .50 SP only is because I have a 4 man rotation and the game forces me to have 5 starters. I still do not understand why. A 5 man rotation team does not have to carry 6 starting pitchers so why should I have to carry a 5th?
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Re: Jerk Em Around at Every Turn

PostSat Jul 12, 2014 5:36 am

Valen wrote:I see Nev's point. The reason I carry .50 SP only is because I have a 4 man rotation and the game forces me to have 5 starters. I still do not understand why. A 5 man rotation team does not have to carry 6 starting pitchers so why should I have to carry a 5th?

Exactly. I thought the cards were priced accurately already. Just because a .50 starter is used a lot doesn't mean it's under priced.
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Re: Jerk Em Around at Every Turn

PostSat Jul 12, 2014 11:18 am

Valen wrote:I see Nev's point. The reason I carry .50 SP only is because I have a 4 man rotation and the game forces me to have 5 starters. I still do not understand why. A 5 man rotation team does not have to carry 6 starting pitchers so why should I have to carry a 5th?

I wonder. is there any major league team in history that only started 4 starters for every single game in a season, why should the game engine be designed to offer a scenario that really doesn't exist? I would prefer is the .50 s5 didn't even exist and you had to put at risk your 5th starter being used when bullpen is overused.
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Re: Jerk Em Around at Every Turn

PostSat Jul 12, 2014 11:57 am

The price changes are completely inconsistent and only randomly based on usage:

Babe Ruths price hasn't changed- do you think he was used regularly?
Why hasn't his price increased to reflect the fact that he gets used in every 140 and up league?

thats one of a number of players- so whats the logic on who was moved and why... :shock:
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Re: Jerk Em Around at Every Turn

PostSat Jul 12, 2014 1:18 pm

Now this is a thread more like years gone by. Fighting and name calling was the vital original fabric of the great online players of this game. My favorites are when old timers announce their retirement and flowers and cries of please dont leave us ring out!
It's a simulated fantasy game where you get to see your heroes and dead people you only got to read about come to life. But wait, "HAL used my wrong pinch hitter and I lost the championship! I could have been king and now I have to shell out $20 more for 8 weeks of entertainment"? And my 5th starter that I never want to use has gone up in price? whoa!
Everyone check the cushions of your couch or just pick up the spare change laying out at every convenience store u visit and your good for another 8 weeks of being jerked around!
Did Dinesh D'souza cover this phenomenen in his newest book? Maybe Freakonomics 3 will mention us.
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Re: Jerk Em Around at Every Turn

PostSat Jul 12, 2014 2:09 pm

I wonder. is there any major league team in history that only started 4 starters for every single game in a season

How many times in history has a team gone all season and only started 5 pitchers? The issue is simple. Why should a team with a 4 man rotation carry a 5th starter but a team with a 5 man rotation does not have to carry a 6th starter.

why should the game engine be designed to offer a scenario that really doesn't exist?

Why indeed? Major league teams do not carry an extra starter to just sit around and do nothing. Why should we have to?
And if they did wouldn't they pay that pitcher the minimum allowed?

I would prefer is the .50 s5 didn't even exist and you had to put at risk your 5th starter being used when bullpen is overused.

No problem with that. But why should that only apply to teams with 4 * starters and not to teams with 5 non * starters?

This is a very good point though. If overused bullpens actually got fatigued like real relievers then teams would want/need to carry an extra long man and the S/R pitcher would have similar value to a real life swing man on a real pitching staff. And with relative certainty that pitcher would be used there would be value in carrying one that was at least mediocre.
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Re: Jerk Em Around at Every Turn

PostSat Jul 12, 2014 4:30 pm

Radagast Brown wrote:Part of the reason for some of the prices raises were supply and demand. If a pitcher is almost always picked at .50 (regardless of the reason he is oft picked) why shouldn't his price go up 20 or 30 thousand dollars? I really don't see how this is "Screwing over SOM customers", unless you are just being sarcastic. Besides it is a poor use of resources to have four or five guys at .5 million who never play and add nothing to your team and it is unrealistic to carry such players to boot.



Not sure what post were you reading?

I never said to have 4 or 5 nickels on a team Just the nickel 5th sp

and if you read my post I explain why it helps HAL's poor bullpen management, so that's adds something useful yes?

And quite often in a 12 team league the pure SP only nickels (about 8 or so) are usually always on rosters, so ask most of the community why they use them and if they add nothing to their teams.
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Re: Jerk Em Around at Every Turn

PostSat Jul 12, 2014 4:53 pm

Everybody uses the SP only .50 guys because it is an advantage. Don't see an issue with a cost do so.

The rule is that we have 5 SP rated pitchers. We decide whether to use them. There might be an issue if everyone used a 5 man rotation to avoid carrying the useless 5 th but the reality is that the 4 man rotation is still the one used the most.
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