Ratings Guide Curse

I haven't come across such a pompous bag of hot air in close to 30 years.

Thanks, Steve...really. You're now the third person to make an unfounded personal attack on me after BJ said I was the one who makes personal attacks.

You may not be the gentleman I once thought you were, but I do appreciate your supporting my cause...

The topical debate of this forum thread was over long ago. Let's move on.

Thanks, Steve...really. You're now the third person to make an unfounded personal attack on me after BJ said I was the one who makes personal attacks.

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From what I've seen, you bring it on yourself.

You come across as an authority on the benefits of a ratings guide that you now say you never read. Why am I not surprised.

You base this on what some people say about what their experience with these guides were. How do you know, as the original poster states, that these guides don't have potential negative impacts? They might put to much emphasis in wrong areas regarding card evaluation, therefore could effect managers negatively. I haven't read and evaluated these guides either so neither you nor I can speak of the potential impact on managers. Your entire argument on this subject is null and void if you base your opinion on hearsay.

Thanks, Steve...really. You're now the third person to make an unfounded personal attack on me after BJ said I was the one who makes personal attacks.

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From what I've seen, you bring it on yourself.

If you have seen any post where I have, Steve, show it to me.

You are a grown man, and grown men back their statements up. Otherwise, you're the one spewing hot air.

As to "Strethered,' I have no idea what that means. However, if it appropriately means having your arguments debunked, deconstructed, and taunted, then you have just been majorly "Strethered."...

Professor strether, as an authority on the English language, can you explain to me what it means to have my "arguments ... taunted" (sic)? It's possible to taunt a human being or an animal. It's possible to taunt Graham Chapman as King Arthur or l.strether. It's even possible to taunt a tomato - although I wouldn't expect the tomato to respond. I'm not sure how one taunts an abstract concept like an argument. Please explain.

You come across as an authority on the benefits of a ratings guide that you now say you never read. Why am I not surprised.

First of all, BJ, you have to stop using phrases like "seem" and "you come across." All those indicate are your personal biases, opinions, and perceptions. You know I don't respect you or think you're very bright, so you're getting nowhere by sharing them with me. Secondly, I never said I was an authority on the "benefits of a ratings guide". I cogently and accurately argued that those who use them are not complete strat players and do not win their championships on heir own. The face is cute by the way, why do I think there's quite a resemblance...

You base this on what some people say about what their experience with these guides were. How do you know, as the original poster states, that these guides don't have potential negative impacts? They might put to much emphasis in wrong areas regarding card evaluation, therefore could effect managers negatively.

This is a legitimate point. If the ratings guides suck, then the players using them would be screwed. However, the SOM ratings guide is definitely highly likely to be effective. They make the cards; they are extremely likely to be producing accurate, effective guides. JoeTheJet, however, may be putting out a crappy product. I wouldn't say that, but you are definitely implying his ratings guide could very well suck, and that is unfortunate. The Last Druid uses JTJ's guide, do you think he has done terribly using it? I don't think so.

So, at least we can agree that, if a player is using a good ratings guide, then he is not a complete player and did not win his championships on his own. However, if he is using a bad ratings guide, then he is still a partial player, but he is at a disadvantage to complete players. I'm cool with this. If you can show me that any of the ratings guides are bad, I will share my sympathies with their users.

I haven't read and evaluated these guides either so neither you nor I can speak of the potential impact on managers. Your entire argument on this subject is null and void if you base your opinion on hearsay.

This is just ridiculous. Accurate information gleaned from written texts or spoken insight is not hearsay. It is
accurate information gleaned from written texts or spoken insight Everyday baseball fans draw useful information from scouting reports, history books, and newspapers. Almost none of us see that information for itself. If I accurately and correctly read that ratings guides effectively assist managers in their player evaluations, then it was not hearsay. It was my receiving accurate truth. I am actually surprised you didn't know that.

Jason/Strether-

You consistently get into fights with just about everyone on these forums you interact with- and you seem to require proof that you are in fact the problem- proof being what you will accept, not what everyone else knows.

So,

here ya go- a theme song that properly represents what you do here:

THE ITCHY STRETHER SHOW:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyjjYYpTK7Y

PS- in case you don't know- its a SIMPSONS reference- not OJ in case you are further confused.

As to "Strethered,' I have no idea what that means. However, if it appropriately means having your arguments debunked, deconstructed, and taunted, then you have just been majorly "Strethered."...

Professor strether, as an authority on the English language, can you explain to me what it means to have my "arguments ... taunted" (sic)? It's possible to taunt a human being or an animal. It's possible to taunt Graham Chapman as King Arthur or l.strether. It's even possible to taunt a tomato - although I wouldn't expect the tomato to respond. I'm not sure how one taunts an abstract concept like an argument. Please explain.

It looks like someone is still sore from their "Strethering." I'm liking this term you gave me more and more...

You're absolutely right. You cannot literally "taunt" an argument; you taunt someone "for" their argument. If this was a scholarly paper, I would not have used the phrase. However, this not a scholarly paper; it is a SOM forum thread with greater latitude for grammatical whimsy. So, since I had taunted you a bit for your erroneous arguments, I appropriately--if not correctly grammatically--added "taunted" to the end of "debunked" and "deconstructed," the things I had literally done to your arguments.

If that is your issue with my post, then I make a complete and unapologetic mea culpa. You seem, however, to have taken my ribbing in stride. I have no issue with you and am fine to move on.


P.s. Please keep calling me "Professor Strether." Some of my students can't stop using the inappropriate "Mister"

Marky Saltman

You consistently get into fights with just about everyone on these forums you interact with- and you seem to require proof that you are in fact the problem- proof being what you will accept, not what everyone else knows.

I never get into fights at all, although you keep erroneously saying I do. I debate; and I usually debate better than others. I'm not being arrogant. I just factually have a significantly better education in philosophy, rhetoric, and the English language than most. Than in itself never makes me right. However, it does frustrate and anger some, not all, of my interlocutors.

Also, I am never initially hostile or snide. However, I am an Italian raised in an Italian household. So, if someone gives it to me, I give it back and usually better than I got. And if you think I "get into fights" then show one post I made where I initiated it. We both know you can't, so you're now the fourth poster to personally attack me by slandering me.

I have seen you in fights, though. Here's a charming post you made in one of them:

Salty, Thank you? For me spending my money or trolling a board? Are you 6 years old?

It's very simple. Spend your money or don't. Complain or don't. But if you are so frustrated that you think to link your message board comments with cash out of my pocket that I choose to spend, then you need to find another hobby to at least gain some balance in your life.

If your comment was TIC, that's one thing...but seriously...you were serious.

Was it a smoke-filled boardroom, where the powers at SOM in Glen Head scrutinized a message board and consulted the Great Pumpkin, before lowering prices?

Maaan, Im left wondering if you are really this obtuse or just acting; Either way,
here is the only thing I can say, since for the nth time you've missed completely on the point.

“Never try to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and it annoys the pig.”

and just in case you dont get it: I am the one 'wasting' my time, and Im sure you are 'annoyed'.

Wow, Markymark. This guy completely, but politely, zings you and calls you out on your idiocy. And all you can do is talk to him about "singing pigs". You're not only fighting here, you're doing it like an underdeveloped adolescent...what a shock.

And thanks for the post; I love Itchy and Scratchy.

Here, however is one for you. It reminded me so much of you and Neve, I just had to post it for you:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RrWfNonLDQ

You say you dont fight with everyone-
Yet everyone else says you do:

Who is correct?

You or EVERYONE else?


PS- we call this narcissism amongst other things.

Plus, going back and researching my posts from 2 years ago- dammm man- talk about obsessed-
yes I already know you will now accuse me of this- but seriously, man, tell your therapist about this- seriously, he can help you.

PPS- Slander, to be correct has to be false, buy a dictionary.