20th Century Keeper League :: 1990s and beyond

Managers may keep any players they wish, from decade to decade -- although keeping more will lower their draft position

Just asking not complaining
we will treat George Gibson the same as Ty Cobb? We both lose our 1st rd pick

If you want to keep George Gibson, that's up to you -- but I wouldn't!

I'm happily keeping Mathewson and Adams and falling to draft pick #6 most likely, instead of having a chance at draft picks #1-5.

I'm complaining. I drafted Cobb first in part because he is real good this year and real great next year. I passed on Duffy, the best player this year and not playing next.

I would have happily taken Cobb -- he and Mathewson and Adams were the prime keepers in this first decade, I believe.

So my gamble of a good player next year will yield me a lower draft pick and the team not having their player gets the higher pick to maybe get the best player again.

Yes, since you will already have the #2 batter in the 1910s set -- that's not much of a gamble!

So, if management feels it is in the best interests of the league to punish the managers taking the risk, then so be it. I don't agree. But if you do. Add the number of keepers to the wins total and rank us worst to best.

Per the league Google doc (and an early email):

DRAFT SEQUENCE: Managers who are "keeping" an Aaron or a Cobb, or a Clemens or a Mathewson, from decade to decade have a distinct advantage over those who are choosing 25 new players. The draft sequence will be determined by:
a) Teams with fewest keepers draft first, starting with those with zero, then those with one, etc.
b) In case of ties in the number of keepers, then the most recent completed season's W/L record will be the determining factor (as usual),
going from worst to best.

Of course if you are redrafting 80-90% of your roster every year, the previous years wins shouldn't make much difference.

True, it's just a way to help managers enjoy as many seasons as possible -- like having a bad year and being able to recover a bit by playing the West Div in the next season of a traditional keeper.

Where are the drafted players put in the draft order? At the end I would suspect.

When you keep Cobb, you will draft 24 players in the 1910s season, including in round 1.

After all the squawking I like the format.

Good -- me, too!

Don't get me wrong here. I'd be happy to keep Mathewson and Adams and still have a shot at the #1 pick. I just don't think that would be fair to the rest of you...

If you want to keep George Gibson, that's up to you -- but I wouldn't!

Poor George no respect

So, is Cobb my first or 25th pick?

{{ROUND 23}}
133. ironwill1 - Solly Hofman CF CHC
134. alk58 - Dave Brain SS StL
135. JMP1 - Ed Konetchy 1B STL
136. willmurr - RE-PICK
137. jflatour99 - Charley O'Leary SS Det
138. tcochran - Lee Tannehill 3B CHW

{{ROUND 24}}
139. tcochran - John Ward SS NYG
140. jflatour99 - Mickey Doolan SS Phi
141. willmurr - TIMED OUT AT 5:50
142. JMP1 - TIMED OUT @ 7:50
143 alk58 - George Mullin SP DET
144. ironwill1

Will, I really think that you'll have the upper hand of that pick (Ty Cobb). You'll still have one of the best players in the 1910's set PLUS, You'll probably have the # 5 and # 8 pick. Not bad ! It's like having 2 first round picks ! I wouldn't complain about that.

So, is Cobb my first or 25th pick?

Okay, I understand your thing... I understood the rules as he would count as #25 pick...

So, is Cobb my first or 25th pick?

Okay, I understand your thing... I understood the rules as he would count as #25 pick...

Yes, Cobb would count as #26 pick (including ballpark)

and a 1st round pick? after the non keeper teams draft

and a 1st round pick? after the non keeper teams draft

Yes, I expect the 1910s draft sequence to be:
1 -
2 -
3 -
4 -
5 - ironwill1 (keeping Cobb)
6 - tcochran (keeping Adams & Mathewson)