Should someone be banned from the boards?

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Should someone be banned from the boards?

Poll ended at Fri Oct 17, 2014 11:37 pm

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fredpaii

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Re: Should someone be banned from the boards?

PostMon Oct 13, 2014 4:23 pm

Plan B, the reason two players with identical real life Major league stats - lets assume hitters for this scenario - can have different Strat cards with one hitter much better than the other is because Strat (the card makers) considers the home ballpark of the actual players as criteria for making the cards.

So you could have a hitter from the Yankees with 20 HRs and a hitter from the Padres with 20 HRs and if they had roughly the same amount of plate appearances the hitter from the Padres will easily have more ballpark HRs on his card. That's because it's tougher to hit HR in Petco than Yankee Stadium.

That's why it's important to be able to read cards (know what all the dice roll results mean and what the symbols stand for).

http://onlinegames.strat-o-matic.com/help/hittercard

The Pitcher's card can also vary based on Centerfield defense. So if you have two major league pitchers with identical WHIP's and HR's allowed in the same amount of innings the cards can be significantly different based on the defense of the pitcher's Centerfielder in real life. If he was very good then your pitcher will suffer by having more BPHRs (maybe natural HRs too) on his card.

http://onlinegames.strat-o-matic.com/help/pitchercard
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Re: Should someone be banned from the boards?

PostMon Oct 13, 2014 4:46 pm

Also, you can go to this page to see the progress of how current leagues are filling...http://onlinegames.strat-o-matic.com/league/list
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Re: Should someone be banned from the boards?

PostSat Oct 18, 2014 1:48 pm

Valen wrote: The first time I ever remember reading a post from this person was when he went back a year and pulled out a quote from a long forgotten thread and went on the attack. After attempting to remember what the original discussion was about and explain what I meant I was repeatedly called a liar. I gave him 2 warnings I did not wish to engage in such silliness. After the third time I just listed him as a foe.
Now the only time I am aware of him is when I see posts by others he has chosen to attack and pick fights with trying to defend themselves and reason with him.

I just noticed this shamefully dishonest post from Valen, and I had to respond since he posted afterTurtle used my name. This was my final exchange with Valen--over Masahiro Tanaka--that he does lie about above:
l.strether wrote:Although I wasn't sure he was going to be an ace, I was pretty sure he was going to be better than a #3 starter. Along with his great success in the high level of competition of the Japan league, he had established great command of a substantial repertoire while his fastball rested at 92-93 mph and touched 95-96 mph.

Valen, a bit haughtily, responded to my post by trying to correct my views on Tanaka with this post:
Valen wrote:....full post on Tanaka thread.
The debate of whether he would be a #1 or a #3 was irrelevant. A #3 merely means you have 2 other good pitchers. For a contending team a #3 pitcher in rotation is still pretty good.
Who is #3 on Detroit? Dodgers? Oakland?
Too much is made of who is 1,2,or 3 when it really does not matter a week in to season when everyone pitches the same, once every 5 days.

I responded by correctly calling Valen a "hypocrite"--not a "liar"--in this post:
l.strether wrote:Don't be such a hypocrite. You, yourself, considered the "debate of whether he would be a #1 or #3" relevant in the last Tanaka forum*, where you said your "greatest concern about him" was whether he would be a "#3 starter" paid ace money. So, you obviously do give the starter ranking terms credence, and you really shouldn't haughtily carp about others using them.

And I backed up that assertion by referencing this ealrlier post of Valen's:
Valen wrote:
Tanaka will end up commanding ace starter money, and I think it's quite likely that he'll be more like a #3 starter.

As a fan and if I were an owner that would be my greatest concern. And is the reason I would not be disappointed if the Rangers avoid the temptation.
I suppose in some ways though this question as a fan is really about how much you trust your team. How much do you trust the people running it to make good baseball decisions and the scouts employed by it to make the right recommendations.

So, Valen clearly was being a hypocrite, and I was right to call his correction of me "hypocritical." He never went on to "warn" or "reason" with me, only ramble, dodge, and even appropriate my arguments. I certainly never attacked him. Also, if someone is on Valen's foes list, how does Valen see that person "attacking" anyone...very dubious.

P.S. Coyote, I've never seen anyone "bash" (severely criticize) anyone over 18th century poets. Please show me where they have. I've taught Freshman British Romanticism and Modernism, so i would love to see such a post.
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Re: Should someone be banned from the boards?

PostTue Nov 04, 2014 7:12 pm

Sorry but I've been away for a while but what's the significance of these song lists? They are almost as exciting as the 'Randomizer' or 'paging' threads. :roll: Has this turned into the Off Topic section?
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Re: Should someone be banned from the boards?

PostTue Nov 04, 2014 8:58 pm

wavygravy2k wrote:Sorry but I've been away for a while but what's the significance of these song lists? They are almost as exciting as the 'Randomizer' or 'paging' threads. :roll: Has this turned into the Off Topic section?

So, we've gone from crying about the forum being "dead" to actually complaining about the threads made, the threads others enjoy? That is both stupefying and sad...and a tad funny.

First of all, the Greatest Players threads are not "Off topic" threads. They are MLB threads that also encourage discussion of the Arts. I started them because the forum was dry, and I knew people enjoyed discussing/debating both MLB and the Arts...and I was right. Many of us have participated in these lists and have enjoyed comparing Drysdale and Niekro on the same thread as they discussed different Beatles songs, among other things.

Apparently you have no interest in music or in discussing it. That's fine. You are more than welcome to only address the MLB halves of the list. If not, I sincerely suggest you start your own thread that meets your particular standards. If this Forum is to grow and become more active, we need more people creating 20xx threads and less people complaining about the ones created.

I look forward to the baseball-only list you produce for us; I'm sure it will be firmly on-topic... ;)
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Re: Should someone be banned from the boards?

PostTue Nov 04, 2014 9:36 pm

It would be nice if there was more activity at moving things around and/or creating sections like Off-Topic or MLB/Arts sections. Reminding others of proper forum etiquette would also be a plus. But, the community is so small I can totally understand if they have limited resources in this area.
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Re: Should someone be banned from the boards?

PostTue Nov 04, 2014 9:44 pm

wavygravy2k wrote:Reminding others of proper forum etiquette would also be a plus.

I agree with this. Your making an eye-roll sign at a thread into which someone put work was certainly not the height of forum etiquette. I'm sure you can do better.
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Re: Should someone be banned from the boards?

PostTue Nov 04, 2014 10:35 pm

I'm sure a typical mod would be able to differentiate between harmless sarcasm and flaming especially given the poster's reputation.
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Re: Should someone be banned from the boards?

PostTue Nov 04, 2014 10:54 pm

wavygravy2k wrote:I'm sure a typical mod would be able to differentiate between harmless sarcasm and flaming especially given the poster's reputation.

I have no idea what a typical mod is, I don't know your reputation, and I never said you "flamed." So, don't be misleading.

Many rude phrases and gestures are "harmless;" that doesn't excuse them. Rolling your eyes at something on which somebody--particularly somebody you don't know--worked is still rude. If you actually are concerned with forum etiquette, even to the point of advocating it, then you should refrain from such rude gestures in the future. Otherwise, your advocacy rings a bit hollow.

P.s. Sarcasm is only sarcasm if you didn't mean what you signified. Since your eye-roll gesture perfectly matched your disdain for the threads, it wasn't sarcastic at all.
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Re: Should someone be banned from the boards?

PostWed Nov 05, 2014 8:35 am

wavygravy2k wrote:Sorry but I've been away for a while but what's the significance of these song lists? They are almost as exciting as the 'Randomizer' or 'paging' threads. :roll: Has this turned into the Off Topic section?


I've enjoyed the lists. I like how baseball is combined with music, tv shows, and movies. It's all very entertaining to me.

Wavy, what are you interested in?
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